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From: Drak <drak@zikula.org>
To: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Dedicated server for bitcoin.org, your thoughts?
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 13:39:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANAnSg3nPhrk2k=yDKf39AuBQnSuTWJbgANdMhGe=soiOy0NTw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131212205106.GA4572@netbook.cypherspace.org>

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Has anyone seen the talk at 30c3 on the current NSA capabilities?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0w36GAyZIA

Specifically they are able to "beat the speed of light" between you and a
website such that if you communicate with Bob, they can sent competing
packets that will arrive before Bob's packets. They have  realtime deep
packet insertion able to inject arbitrary data into an TCP streams and can
change file downloads **on the fly**. This can be done remotely.

Sourceforge do not have https downloads, so this is yet another reason to
move downloads to somewhere that does - like github.
The NSA has the ability, right now to change every download of bitcoin-qt,
on the fly and the only cure is encryption.

Revealed as part of the presentation is the fact that if the NSA has access
to these capabilities, then so do others and in fact one of the things
revealed yesterday was independently discovered already and published.

Same goes for the bitcoin.org site - why are we dragging our feet on
installing an SSL certificate and redirecting all http to https? While no
solution is perfect, it's a lot better than zero defense.

You can see the irony of disseminating the bitcoin crypto-currency client
 in the clear.

For anyone who has not seen the video. You will be shocked by what is
actually in the wild being used today. It goes way beyond anything
imaginable even in science fiction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0w36GAyZIA

Drak

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-31 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-08  1:17 [Bitcoin-development] Dedicated server for bitcoin.org, your thoughts? Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08  3:38 ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla
2013-12-08  9:03   ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 12:37     ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 19:16       ` Drak
2013-12-08 19:25         ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 20:28           ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-08 20:40             ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 20:51               ` Drak
2013-12-08 21:01                 ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 21:11                   ` Drak
2013-12-08 23:51                     ` theymos
2013-12-09  0:06                       ` Taylor Gerring
2013-12-09  6:29                       ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-12-09 10:54                       ` Roy Badami
2013-12-10  9:18                       ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla
2013-12-08 21:09                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 21:16             ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 21:58               ` Roy Badami
2013-12-08 23:03                 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-09  5:32                   ` Jeff Garzik
2013-12-08 22:44               ` Gavin Andresen
2013-12-08 23:48                 ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 23:18               ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 23:29               ` Patrick
2013-12-08 21:46             ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-12-08 20:40           ` Drak
2013-12-08 20:50             ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 21:07               ` Drak
2013-12-08 21:14                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 22:27                   ` Robert McKay
2013-12-12 20:51           ` Adam Back
2013-12-31 13:39             ` Drak [this message]
2013-12-31 13:48               ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-31 13:59                 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-31 14:18                   ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-31 14:23                     ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-31 21:25                       ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-12-31 21:33                         ` Matt Corallo
2014-01-01 10:02                           ` Jeremy Spilman
2014-01-01 11:37                             ` Wladimir
2014-01-01 15:10                         ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-01 22:15                       ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-02 19:49                   ` Jorge Timón
2013-12-31 14:05                 ` Benjamin Cordes
2014-01-03  5:45                 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-01-03  9:59                   ` Drak
2014-01-03 11:22                     ` Tier Nolan
2014-01-03 13:09                       ` Adam Back
2014-01-03 17:38                     ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-01-03 18:21                       ` Jorge Timón
2014-01-04  1:43                         ` Troy Benjegerdes
2013-12-08 10:00   ` Drak
2013-12-08 12:39     ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 16:51     ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 16:08 ` Wladimir

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