From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WYDQ4-0007pa-AZ for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:45:24 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; envelope-from=mh.in.england@gmail.com; helo=mail-ob0-f176.google.com; Received: from mail-ob0-f176.google.com ([209.85.214.176]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WYDQ2-00076J-1V for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:45:24 +0000 Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id wp18so4165740obc.7 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2014 04:45:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.157.202 with SMTP id wo10mr1678688oeb.9.1397130316748; Thu, 10 Apr 2014 04:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: mh.in.england@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.96.180 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Apr 2014 04:45:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <139aeadf-e58a-4852-b96b-a1c30780eb9c@email.android.com> References: <0509477C-89F9-47C7-8820-29ACAD4A4A8E@bitsofproof.com> <534592E2.7040800@gmail.com> <5345986C.3040901@gmail.com> <77889B25-03D6-4401-A5FE-432976951F55@bitsofproof.com> <5EA7E1CA-2673-49D4-A1C4-015117E5133D@bitsofproof.com> <3DB84423-BAEB-4290-B43C-7A3B07141844@bitsofproof.com> <139aeadf-e58a-4852-b96b-a1c30780eb9c@email.android.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 13:45:16 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: EC0Ymm3Z5uK_EENLuLekxIbJWvw Message-ID: From: Mike Hearn To: Peter Todd Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd6c5e83c1db404f6aec091 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (mh.in.england[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WYDQ2-00076J-1V Cc: Bitcoin Dev , jason bitcoinica Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Bitcoind-in-background mode for SPV wallets X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:45:24 -0000 --047d7bd6c5e83c1db404f6aec091 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Oh yeah, credit goes to Mike Hearn for the payment channels, and if I'm > correct, for the hub concept as well. > Actually, the design is from Satoshi and Matt did most of the implementation work last year during a Google internship. Though I ended up doing a lot of work on it too. We actually got pretty far: there was Android UI for it and a couple of apps we coded up. I wish we could have pushed it over the finishing line and got real world usage. Hopefully we can return to it someday soon. I think the hub/spoke concept was invented by goldsmiths in 16th century Italy, as they started handing pieces of paper across their benches, or *bancos* in Italian :-) --047d7bd6c5e83c1db404f6aec091 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh yeah, credit goes to Mike Hearn for the payme= nt channels, and if I'm correct, for the hub concept as well.

Actually, the design is from Satoshi and M= att did most of the implementation work last year during a Google internshi= p. Though I ended up doing a lot of work on it too. We actually got pretty = far: there was Android UI for it and a couple of apps we coded up. I wish w= e could have pushed it over the finishing line and got real world usage. Ho= pefully we can return to it someday soon.

I think the hub/spoke concept was invented by goldsmith= s in 16th century Italy, as they started handing pieces of paper across the= ir benches, or=C2=A0bancos=C2=A0in Italian =C2=A0 :-)
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