From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WO5jP-0001Ks-GO for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:31:31 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.219.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.41; envelope-from=mh.in.england@gmail.com; helo=mail-oa0-f41.google.com; Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com ([209.85.219.41]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WO5jN-0001A4-Vl for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:31:31 +0000 Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id j17so1046403oag.0 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 06:31:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.229.228 with SMTP id st4mr1556724oec.16.1394717484566; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 06:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Sender: mh.in.england@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.71.231 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 06:31:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <52852C2D.9020103@gmail.com> <52853D8A.6010501@monetize.io> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:31:24 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: E4pYGvrfc433Fv0ZS7tYLWP6Rxk Message-ID: From: Mike Hearn To: Gary Rowe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11362fb03acfb704f47cf816 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (mh.in.england[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WO5jN-0001A4-Vl Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] moving the default display to mbtc X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:31:31 -0000 --001a11362fb03acfb704f47cf816 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The standard has become mBTC and that's what was adopted. It's too late to try and sway this on a mailing list thread now. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Gary Rowe wrote: > The MultiBit HD view is that this is a locale-sensitive presentation > issue. As a result we offer a simple configuration panel giving pretty mu= ch > every possible combination: icon, m+icon, =CE=BC+icon, BTC, mBTC, =CE= =BCBTC, XBT, > mXBT, =CE=BCXBT, sat along with settings for leading/trailing symbol, co= mmas, > spaces and points. This allows anyone to customise to meet their own need= s > beyond the offered default. > > We apply the NIST guidelines for representation of SI unit symbols (i.e n= o > conversion to native language, no RTL giving icon+m etc). > > Right now MultiBit HD is configured to use m+icon taken from the Font > Awesome icon set. However reading earlier posts it seems that =CE=BC+icon= is > more sensible. > > Let us know what you'd like. > > Links: > m+icon screenshot: http://imgur.com/a/WCDoG > Font Awesome icon: http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/btc/ > NIST SI guidelines: http://physics.nist.gov/Pubs/SP811/sec07.html > > > On 13 March 2014 12:56, Jeff Garzik wrote: > >> Resurrecting this topic. Bitcoin Wallet moved to mBTC several weeks >> ago, which was disappointing -- it sounded like the consensus was >> uBTC, and moving to uBTC later --which will happen-- may result in >> additional user confusion, thanks to yet another decimal place >> transition. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Wendell wrote: >> > We're with uBTC too. Been waiting for the signal to do this, let's do >> it right after the fee system is improved. >> > >> > -wendell >> > >> > grabhive.com | twitter.com/hivewallet | gpg: 6C0C9411 >> > >> > On Nov 15, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote: >> > >> >> Go straight to uBTC. Humans and existing computer systems handle >> numbers to >> >> the left of the decimals just fine (HK Dollars, Yen). The opposite is >> >> untrue (QuickBooks really does not like 3+ decimal places). >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Jeff Garzik >> Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist >> BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ >> Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book >> "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and the= ir >> applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, >> this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech >> _______________________________________________ >> Bitcoin-development mailing list >> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development >> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and thei= r > applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, > this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > --001a11362fb03acfb704f47cf816 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The standard has become mBTC and that's what was adopt= ed. It's too late to try and sway this on a mailing list thread now.


On Thu, Ma= r 13, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Gary Rowe <g.rowe@froot.co.uk> wrote= :
The MultiBit HD view is tha= t this is a locale-sensitive presentation issue. As a result we offer a sim= ple configuration panel giving pretty much every possible combination: icon= , m+icon,=C2=A0=C2=A0=CE=BC+icon, BTC, mBTC,=C2=A0=C2=A0=CE=BCBTC, XBT, mXBT,=C2=A0=C2=A0=CE=BCXBT,=C2=A0sat=C2=A0along with s= ettings for leading/trailing symbol, commas, spaces and points. This allows= anyone to customise to meet their own needs beyond the offered default.=C2= =A0

We apply the NIST guidelines for representation of SI unit s= ymbols (i.e no conversion to native language, no RTL giving icon+m etc).
Right now MultiBit HD is configured to use m+icon taken fr= om the Font Awesome icon set. However reading earlier posts it seems that= =C2=A0=CE=BC+icon is more sensible.=C2=A0

Let us know what you'd like.

Links:
m+icon screenshot:=C2=A0http://imgur.com/a/WCDoG


On 13 March 2014 12:56, Jeff Garzik <j= garzik@bitpay.com> wrote:
Resurrecting this topic. =C2=A0Bitcoin Wallet moved to mBTC several weeks ago, which was disappointing -- it sounded like the consensus was
uBTC, and moving to uBTC later --which will happen-- may result in
additional user confusion, thanks to yet another decimal place
transition.



On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Wendell <w@grabhive.com> wrote:
> We're with uBTC too. Been waiting for the signal to do this, let&#= 39;s do it right after the fee system is improved.
>
> -wendell
>
> grabhive.com | <= a href=3D"http://twitter.com/hivewallet" target=3D"_blank">twitter.com/hive= wallet | gpg: 6C0C9411
>
> On Nov 15, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>> Go straight to uBTC. Humans and existing computer systems handle n= umbers to
>> the left of the decimals just fine (HK Dollars, Yen). The opposite= is
>> untrue (QuickBooks really does not like 3+ decimal places).
>



--
Jeff Garzik
Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist
BitPay, Inc. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://bitpay.com/

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