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From: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net>
To: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Dedicated server for bitcoin.org, your thoughts?
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 14:23:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANEZrP1mdJNa7ADkUXTGDNKMSCROjGAVbMXZXxodxCz1LFDzZw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAS2fgQmMZ6RYjbJ6ZfFO5+ZhZoR4d4yMf8CXLXKPmZt3-Je4Q@mail.gmail.com>

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>
> The site was actually moved onto a dedicated server temporarily and it
> melted down under the load. I wouldn't call that no progress.
>

Oh, it did? When was that? I must have missed this excitement :)

Any idea how much load it had?

Perhaps I wasn't clear on the point I was making Drak's threat model
> is not improved in the slightest by SSL. It would be improved by
> increasing the use of signature checking, e.g. by making it easier.
>

Well, that depends. If you watch Applebaums talk he is pushing TLS pretty
hard, and saying that based on the access to the source docs some of their
MITM attacks can't beat TLS. It appears that they have the capability to do
bulk MITM and rewrite of downloads as Drak says but *not* when TLS is
present, that would force more targeted attacks. So to me that implies that
TLS does raise the bar and is worth doing.

However if we can't find a server that won't melt under the load, then
that'd be an issue. We could consider hosting downloads on AppEngine or
something else that can handle both high load and TLS.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-31 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-08  1:17 [Bitcoin-development] Dedicated server for bitcoin.org, your thoughts? Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08  3:38 ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla
2013-12-08  9:03   ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 12:37     ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 19:16       ` Drak
2013-12-08 19:25         ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 20:28           ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-08 20:40             ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 20:51               ` Drak
2013-12-08 21:01                 ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 21:11                   ` Drak
2013-12-08 23:51                     ` theymos
2013-12-09  0:06                       ` Taylor Gerring
2013-12-09  6:29                       ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-12-09 10:54                       ` Roy Badami
2013-12-10  9:18                       ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla
2013-12-08 21:09                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 21:16             ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 21:58               ` Roy Badami
2013-12-08 23:03                 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-09  5:32                   ` Jeff Garzik
2013-12-08 22:44               ` Gavin Andresen
2013-12-08 23:48                 ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 23:18               ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 23:29               ` Patrick
2013-12-08 21:46             ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-12-08 20:40           ` Drak
2013-12-08 20:50             ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 21:07               ` Drak
2013-12-08 21:14                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 22:27                   ` Robert McKay
2013-12-12 20:51           ` Adam Back
2013-12-31 13:39             ` Drak
2013-12-31 13:48               ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-31 13:59                 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-31 14:18                   ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-31 14:23                     ` Mike Hearn [this message]
2013-12-31 21:25                       ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-12-31 21:33                         ` Matt Corallo
2014-01-01 10:02                           ` Jeremy Spilman
2014-01-01 11:37                             ` Wladimir
2014-01-01 15:10                         ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-01 22:15                       ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-02 19:49                   ` Jorge Timón
2013-12-31 14:05                 ` Benjamin Cordes
2014-01-03  5:45                 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-01-03  9:59                   ` Drak
2014-01-03 11:22                     ` Tier Nolan
2014-01-03 13:09                       ` Adam Back
2014-01-03 17:38                     ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-01-03 18:21                       ` Jorge Timón
2014-01-04  1:43                         ` Troy Benjegerdes
2013-12-08 10:00   ` Drak
2013-12-08 12:39     ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 16:51     ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 16:08 ` Wladimir

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