On 29 September 2013 04:28, Neil Fincham <neil@asdf.co.nz> wrote:

I subscribe to this list so I can keep up-to date with bitcoin development, can we keep philosophy and tax evasion out of it?

Hi Neil, perhaps I didnt present the use case clearly.  It was not about evasion, it was about voluntary donations going to the correct place, being verified by an oracle.  I dont wish to stray off topic, so I'll leave it at that.

 

Neil

On 29 September 2013 09:15, <rob.golding@astutium.com> wrote:

> But the regulatory environment in many geographical regions in
> uncertain.   Do we need to pay capital gains?   Do we need to pay a
> sales taxs etc. etc.

In most regions it's not only 'simple' but trivial - BTC is just
'another currency' and accounted for exactly the same way - it doens't
matter if you sell your hose for GBP, USD, EUR, BTC or sacks of Pig
Dung, you still have a GBP tax issue ...

> So my idea is to voluntarily pre empt legislation by giving donations
> to govt (aka taxation) for bitcoin service providers. 

You want to volunteer to pay tax ? I'd suggest stronger medication ...

> However, there is something of a problem with voluntary donations. 
> Most people are not satisfied with the way they are spent.

80% of 'donations' end up spent on 'adminsitration' and not what they
were donated for, this is a 'greed' issue not a 'currency' issue.

> In the UK
> a recent survey said that only 18% of people thought that tax money
> was wisely spent.

Tax isn't voluntary or a donation. The 18% who think UK tax is well
spent are the 18% of the population who get the tax money, not the 82%
that pay it ;)

> Can we fix it?

First we kill all the politicians ...

> So let's say I run a business and I make 1 million euros.  I wish to
> donate 10% of my profits to society.  But let's say I dont want that
> money to go to wars of aggression, but rather, to the fire
> de[department. 

So give it to the FD - what you do with your post-tax profits are up to
you ;)

> At this point everyone wins.  The business person is happy to make a
> contribution.  The govt. is happy that it gets more revenue.  The
> fire dept. is happy that it has revenue to do its work.  And
> everything has gone to the right place in a kind of democratic way.

Where does gov't come into this ? I think you're confusing 'tax' which
you have zero control over and 'donations' which you already have 100%
control over.

Rob

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