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From: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net>
To: Blibbet <blibbet@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com>,
	bitcoin-list@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] [bitcoin-list] BitMail - p2p Email 0.1. beta
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:08:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANEZrP3E1g7btsjWsjD6twU+3pmGG-2Cfw_kExUGVb9JiYY4iQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51F886F6.1090108@gmail.com>

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"Support" for a TPM is a rather tricky thing.

By itself the TPM is independent of any CPU. However, it's also not very
useful (though for Pond's use case, it works).

The TPM gets much more useful when it's integrated with features on the
motherboard, BIOS, CPU, northbridge, IOMMU etc. Then you have a full blown
TCG-compliant TC environment, which is useful for many things. Actually it
was never very useful for DRM - that was only one theoretical possibility
that was never implemented and even if it had been, TC is to DRM much as
cryptography is to DRM. So the FUD was just that: fear, uncertainty and
doubt which probably crippled a highly useful cryptographic security tool
for good. One of the more shameful periods of the tech industries history,
if you ask me.



On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Blibbet <blibbet@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7/30/13 3:58 PM, grarpamp wrote:
> > [...] And if AMD even has this stuff.  [...]
>
> Yes, AMD does have TPM.
>
> Sorry, not sure which models support it.
>
> http://www.amd.com/us/products/embedded/das/Pages/security.aspx
>
>
> http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/platforms/Pages/desktop-platforms.aspx
>
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-31  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-30  5:01 [Bitcoin-development] BitMail - p2p Email 0.1. beta Randolph D.
2013-07-30  6:50 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-07-30  8:40   ` Mike Hearn
2013-07-30 11:27     ` Wendell
2013-07-30 12:12       ` Mike Hearn
     [not found]         ` <CAD2Ti29=Lzcun+0Jz7zn2Dt9G2a06f-0V8KEBUMHJTGxhHQV0A@mail.gmail.com>
2013-07-30 22:17           ` [Bitcoin-development] [bitcoin-list] " Mike Hearn
     [not found]             ` <CAD2Ti29zbac5YrW6+oMvb=8t7b1A31XckyC-mH7_qixLCRnFaQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <51F886F6.1090108@gmail.com>
2013-07-31  9:08                 ` Mike Hearn [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <20130731133104.GW29404@leitl.org>
     [not found]                     ` <CANEZrP3J1+ATYSRcAcJgGtwcJE+XXKjFrdkP-bYQS7VbxKfV-g@mail.gmail.com>
2013-07-31 15:54                       ` Mike Hearn
2013-07-31 16:11         ` [Bitcoin-development] " Randolph D.

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