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From: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net>
To: Andy Parkins <andyparkins@gmail.com>
Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Double spend detection to speed up transaction trust
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 23:36:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANEZrP3kEquEvqkqGqSh0iPRqoHhKLHoNgqc+9EORLoxpL7a=g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201108042042.55214.andyparkins@gmail.com>

> If it's still an experiment why is there such huge objection to pretty much
> every change anyone proposes?

I don't think there are huge objections to every change. You've only
really argued about this with Matt ;)

The vending machine/detecting double spends issue was discussed by
Satoshi in July 2010:

   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423.msg3819#msg3819

He mentioned payment processors that could "alert the transaction is bad".

Gregorys idea looks sound to me. It'd be useful, though, to have a NAK
message for transactions anyway (not propagated). It's possible to get
yourself into a situation today where you connect to nodes that refuse
to relay your transaction for some reason (perhaps your peers are
using old fee rules, or you are) but you think the transaction was
relayed. The user is left wondering why the spend didn't confirm.

If nodes sent a message saying "I refuse to process this tx because
<reason>" it'd make debugging and testing easier as well.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-08-04 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-04 13:23 [Bitcoin-development] Double spend detection to speed up transaction trust Andy Parkins
2011-08-04 17:45 ` Matt Corallo
2011-08-04 18:22   ` Andy Parkins
2011-08-04 18:39     ` Matt Corallo
2011-08-04 19:42       ` Andy Parkins
2011-08-04 20:07         ` Andrew Schaaf
2011-08-04 20:38           ` Matt Corallo
2011-08-04 22:10             ` Stefan Thomas
2011-08-04 22:18               ` Gregory Maxwell
2011-08-04 22:21                 ` Matt Corallo
2011-08-05  0:07                   ` Gavin Andresen
2011-08-04 20:08         ` Gregory Maxwell
2011-08-04 20:33         ` Matt Corallo
2011-08-04 21:36         ` Mike Hearn [this message]
2011-08-04 22:16           ` Matt Corallo
2011-08-05  0:14             ` Stefan Thomas
2011-08-05 11:05               ` Mike Hearn
2011-08-05 11:58                 ` Andy Parkins
2011-08-05 12:06                   ` Matt Corallo
2011-08-05 13:03                     ` Andy Parkins
2011-08-05 21:23                       ` Gregory Maxwell
2011-08-05 21:30                       ` Matt Corallo
2011-08-05 12:00               ` Matt Corallo

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