From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBCFBFD8 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 16:48:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-ig0-f170.google.com (mail-ig0-f170.google.com [209.85.213.170]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35B08169 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 16:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igbkq10 with SMTP id kq10so35803563igb.0 for ; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 09:48:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EcPlCl93Ihzbhm6vZaHYgNURQsqWt5V4uQa4+qR5m3o=; b=WKfeTwwoiAFUav0pqO0zfUWwHtH5WLHy17yF1AkiXhSiZLsqZCJwmorCCifE5g0BMm O/vBSUXBTOEXRhV6jrVmB26LwuZw+GX9EhvsDN0FZtm4bVvF+InUmWYr4zQ9N3mQLzNz qYEv1vIP0NaIpk3Z1McY4RZjM9b6VslO1h9bMrUMyV7NuMQiJF+hATsSDaUE81lHopAw PBFVIY8JfI7mnW+lItBOBZ10nwJfQfdAwT3KSqkpZgZwkqo05a0/OoVvslR9ZH4SWDuV U2QIvlvpWDHZ3F1taZut1yPF+Ua/R7DaVj5KBUsGnzOnIFGR+9b3QDFnQip9ufNafqjH 4VRw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.92.99 with SMTP id cl3mr17272575igb.48.1441471721615; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 09:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.110.19 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:48:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201509040006.06430.luke@dashjr.org> <55E9D980.5020901@openbitcoinprivacyproject.org> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 12:48:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: Christophe Biocca To: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9yZ2UgVGltw7Nu?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] RFC: HD Bitmessage address derivation based on BIP-43 X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 16:48:46 -0000 I will point out that the current situation is not an accident: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pulls?utf8=3D%E2%9C%93&q=3D44 is a great place to get some context for what happened. I believe you can also find the other half of this discussion on the mailing list archives. The cointypes being simple integers was how the code worked as shipped (in the trezor), so changing the semantics after the fact wasn't a possibility. The BIP repository didn't want to constantly deal with updates unrelated to Bitcoin proper, so a decision was made to move that part of the standard to a repository willing to handle it. On 5 September 2015 at 07:17, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n wrote: > > On Sep 4, 2015 7:56 PM, "Justus Ranvier via bitcoin-dev" > wrote: >> >> On 09/03/2015 07:06 PM, Luke Dashjr via bitcoin-dev wrote: >> > Since BIP 43 is still a draft, I propose modifying it to refer non- >> > Bitcoin purpose codes to the SLIP repository: >> > https://doc.satoshilabs.com/slips/ >> >> What benefit is created by delegating the BIP-43 namespace management to >> that company in particular? >> >> BIP-43 as it is currently composed provides the convenient feature of >> purpose codes matching the BIP number. Moving purpose codes to a >> separate namespace add complexity to its usage for no discernible benefi= t. > The "namespace" defined in BIP43 is acceptable. BIP44's is not: > > https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0044.mediawiki#Registered= _coin_types > > It defines a centralized registry controlld by a single company instead o= f > having a way for different companies (or p2p chains like namecoin?) to > maintain competing registries. > > Even better, it could use a code deterministically generated from the cha= in > ID (the hash of the genesis block), completely removing the need for a > registry in the first place. > >> -- >> Justus Ranvier >> Open Bitcoin Privacy Project >> http://www.openbitcoinprivacyproject.org/ >> justus@openbitcoinprivacyproject.org >> E7AD 8215 8497 3673 6D9E 61C4 2A5F DA70 EAD9 E623 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bitcoin-dev mailing list >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >