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[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b14-20020a056a000cce00b006ed2f54b0b5si402580pfv.4.2024.04.19.15.32.20 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Apr 2024 15:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of laolu32@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c; Received: by mail-yb1-xb2c.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-de463ffef13so2700861276.2 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2024 15:32:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:218f:b0:de4:755b:1ce1 with SMTP id dl15-20020a056902218f00b00de4755b1ce1mr4234420ybb.20.1713565939408; Fri, 19 Apr 2024 15:32:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2092f7ff-4860-47f8-ba1a-c9d97927551e@achow101.com> <52a0d792-d99f-4360-ba34-0b12de183fef@murch.one> <84309c3f-e848-d333-fd28-bdd55899b713@netpurgatory.com> <9baa15e4-062d-478f-8c87-8ff19ab79989@murch.one> <4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36-be81-7c3719157fabn@googlegroups.com> <6806b22d-043d-4201-841a-95e17cd8d542@mattcorallo.com> <77554baa9330c57361c65c1fc85557f1@dtrt.org> <7b4e2223-0b96-4ca0-a441-aebcfc7b0bben@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: From: Olaoluwa Osuntokun Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 15:32:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Re: Adding New BIP Editors To: Ava Chow Cc: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001e26e306167aa9ca" X-Original-Sender: laolu32@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=jRMLaGC5; spf=pass (google.com: domain of laolu32@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=laolu32@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) --0000000000001e26e306167aa9ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi y'all, > I have reached out to all 3 of them privately, and received responses fro= m > Kanzure and Ruben that indicate that they probably are willing, but publi= c > confirmation from them on this list would also be nice. I have not > received a response from Roasbeef. I followed up on this with achow directly and realized that she reached out to me via a DM on IRC. I haven't lurked on IRC for many many months now (bu= t this prompted me to lurk once again!), so I missed the original message. After DM'ing on X back and forth a bit to get some clarity on the proposed role, I'd be comfortable with being added as one of the (3?) new BIP editors. I think it's unfortunate that the BIP process has decayed over the past year or so (particularly with all the new dev activity), so if I can lend my time to help restore the process, then I'd be happy to do so =F0=9F= =AB=A1. In terms of load, if I were to be added, given that we'd now have 4 (?) total BIP editors, I don't envision the load would be concentrated on any one individual. -- Laolu On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 10:24=E2=80=AFAM 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development= Mailing List wrote: > While I don't disagree that 5 or 6 people seems like a lot to add at > once, it's not clear to me how we should decide which subset of the > nominees should be added. As it is now, I have only seen an actual > objection to Kanzure and Ruben from /dev/fd0, and no explicit objections > to anyone else. It seems like the vast majority of people don't share > their concerns either as both Kanzure and Ruben continue to be endorsed > by many others. > > Looking at the endorsements each candidate has received, the current > counts are: > * Kanzure - 17 for, 1 against > * Murch - 13 for > * Jonatack - 13 for > * Ruben - 12 for, 1 against > * Roasbeef - 9 for > * Michael Folkson - none > > However, I don't want this process to become a popularity contest and > require some kind of formal voting. Rather I'd prefer that this process > be something more like how Bitcoin Core maintainers are added - by > achieving rough consensus. Without any explicit objections to any of > these candidates, I'm inclined to move forward with adding the 5 who > have received endorsements. Having to pick "winners" from this list > seems like a quick way to stir up drama that I don't think anyone really > wants to deal with. > > I do want to note that neither Kanzure, Ruben, nor Roasbeef have posted > on this list that they are willing to be BIP editors. I have reached out > to all 3 of them privately, and received responses from Kanzure and > Ruben that indicate that they probably are willing, but public > confirmation from them on this list would also be nice. I have not > received a response from Roasbeef. > > Ava > > On 04/11/2024 10:22 AM, Sergi Delgado Segura wrote: > > > I would prefer having more (9+?) than less folks on this task, so > > personal preferences are easily ignored and overwritten by the group > > majority. > > > > I disagree with that, the more doesn't really the better here. Having > > too many editors may result in a tragedy of the commons, in which peopl= e > > just commit to the job because many others do, and they do not end up > > doing as much because they expect others to do the it. This does not > > only make the process look bad but may burnout the ones that end up > > doing the job, given their time commitment ends up being too far from > > their expectations. > > > > I think being more moderate with the amount of people is better, and > > gives us leeway in case the workload ends up being excessive and we nee= d > > to add more people (plus discourage people from joining and slacking > off). > > > > I think 3 more people should be a good number to start from. > > I'd personally vouch for Murch, Kanzure, and Ruben based on their track > > record in the space > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 4:30=E2=80=AFPM nvk > > wrote: > > > > +1 for > > Kanzure > > RubenSomsen > > Seccour > > Jon Atack > > Roasbeef > > > > I would prefer having more (9+?) than less folks on this task, so > > personal preferences are easily ignored and overwritten by the group > > majority. > > > > BIPs were intended as a means to collect ideas, not enforce ideas. > > > > I'd like to return to that. > > > > - NVK (temp gmail account) > > > > On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 5:16:54=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4 David A. Hardi= ng wrote: > > > > On 2024-03-28 10:04, Matt Corallo wrote: > > > Please provide justification rather than simply saying "I > > like Bob!". > > > > Using only comments from the mailing list, the following appear= s > > to be > > the candidate list along with the current support. Asterisks > denote > > candidates who indicated their willingness to accept the role. > > > > - Bryan "Kanzure" Bishop, recommended by Ava Chow[1], Chris > > Stewart[3], > > Michael Folkson[6], Peter Todd[9], Matt Corallo[10], Brandon > > Black[11], > > Antoine Riard[12], Murch[13], Antoine Poinsot[15], John > > Carvalho[16] > > > > - Ruben Somsen, recommended by Ava Chow[1], Chris Stewart[3], > > Michael > > Folkson[6], Antoine Riard[12], Murch[13], Antoine Poinsot[15], > John > > Carvalho[16] > > > > - Jon Atack*, recommended by Luke Dashjr[2], Chris Stewart[3], > > /dev/fd0[5][7], > > Brandon Black[11], Antoine Riard[12], Ava Chow[14], John > > Carvalho[16] > > > > - Olaoluwa "Roasbeef" Osuntokun, recommended by Chris > > Stewart[3], John > > C. Vernaleo[4], /dev/fd0[5][7], Keagan McClelland[8], Antoine > > Riard[12], Ava Chow[14] > > > > - Mark "Murch" Erhardt*, recommended by Michael Folkson[6], > Keagan > > McClelland[8], Matt Corallo[10], Brandon Black[11], Antoine > > Riard[12], > > Ava Chow[14] > > > > - Michael Folkson* > > > > Note: Luke Dashjr proposed[17] Seccour and Greg Tonoski for > > "non-dev > > triaging", Tonoski proposed himself[18] for "BIP editor", and > > Antoine > > Riard[12] proposed Seccour for "decentralized PM". > > > > I searched the BIPs repo by commenter to see if any of the abov= e > > candidates had been especially active there, which is listed > > below as: > > total PRs they commented on (number still open/number closed). > > > > - 21 (1/20) commenter:kanzure > > - 3 (2/1) commenter:rubensomsen > > - 15 (0/15) commenter:jonatack > > - 18 (2/16) commenter:roasbeef > > - 10 (6/4) commenter:Murchandamus > > - 57 (6/51) commenter:michaelfolkson > > > > I'll also note that Osuntokun is the only member of the set to > > have a > > merged BIP that they co-authored, although I believe there are > > far-along > > draft BIPs for both Murch (terminology) and Somsen (Silent > > Payments). I > > don't think this should be a requirement, but I do think it > > demonstrates > > familiarity with the process. > > > > Speaking only for myself, I think all of the candidates above > with > > multiple recommendations from other community participants are > > fully > > qualified for the role, so I'll only provide a detailed > > justification > > for the person who would be my first pick: Murch is not only a > > longstanding and broadly liked Bitcoin contributor, but (as > Corallo > > mentioned) he has worked on standardizing terminology through a > > draft > > BIP. In addition, he provided an extremely detailed review of > > all 300 > > pages of a draft of Mastering Bitcoin (3rd edition) and has > > reviewed > > drafts of over 200 weekly Optech newsletters, in both cases > > significantly improving the accuracy and comprehensibility of t= he > > documentation. To me, that seems very similar to the work we'd > > ask him > > to perform as a BIPs editor and it's something that he's alread= y > > doing, > > so I think there's an excellent fit of person to role. > > > > -Dave > > > > [1] > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/2092f7ff-4860-47f8...@achow101.com/ < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/2092f7ff-4860-47f8-ba1a-c9d97927551e@ach= ow101.com/ > > > > [2] > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/9288df7b-f2e9-4106...@dashjr.org/ < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/9288df7b-f2e9-4106-b843-c1ff8f8a62a3@das= hjr.org/ > > > > [3] > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/d1e7183c-30e6-4f1a...@googlegroups.com/ = < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/d1e7183c-30e6-4f1a-8fd6-cddc46f129a2n@go= oglegroups.com/ > > > > [4] > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/84309c3f-e848-d333...@netpurgatory.com/ = < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/84309c3f-e848-d333-fd28-bdd55899b713@net= purgatory.com/ > > > > [5] > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36...@googlegroups.com/ = < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36-be81-7c3719157fabn@go= oglegroups.com/ > > > > [6] > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/a116fba3-5948-48d2...@googlegroups.com/ = < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/a116fba3-5948-48d2-a787-639a3564d006n@go= oglegroups.com/ > > > > [7] > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/846b668f-8386-4869...@googlegroups.com/ = < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/846b668f-8386-4869-a3b1-55d346efbea1n@go= oglegroups.com/ > > > > [8] > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALeFGL1-LKPWd7YRS110ut8tX=3DwruqgLEazRA= 5...@mail.gmail.com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALeFGL1-LKPWd7YRS110ut8tX=3DwruqgLEazRA= 5nVw9siYCPj4A@mail.gmail.com/ > > > > [9] https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgePPvbf...@petertodd.org/ > > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgePPvbfrr4wZG7k@petertodd.org/> > > [10] > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/f9435999-42df-46b5...@mattcorallo.com/ < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/f9435999-42df-46b5-86e2-7ba0336a9bf2@mat= tcorallo.com/ > > > > [11] https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgWRu32FXzqqg69V@console/ > > > > [12] > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALZpt+E8DohYEJ9aO+FiF6+E...@mail.gmail.= com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALZpt+E8DohYEJ9aO+FiF6+EKMCP5oEbHSKSXpq= 0VKVBhJLhrw@mail.gmail.com/ > > > > [13] > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a...@murch.one/ < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a-920b-32bd88d5e778@mur= ch.one/ > > > > [14] > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ae482890-bce3-468f...@achow101.com/ < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ae482890-bce3-468f-866d-c555b80b0644@ach= ow101.com/ > > > > [15] > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ppBS1tfMU3SFX85kmIBVBd0WpT5Wof_oSBXsuizh= 7692AUDw2TojfvCqvcvlmsy9E69qfWMxK-UZWawf8IDApPqF7bXOH4gwU1c2jS4xojo=3D@prot= onmail.com/ > < > 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Hi y'all,

> I have reached out to all 3 of = them privately, and received responses from
> Kanzure and Ruben that = indicate that they probably are willing, but public
> confirmation fr= om them on this list would also be nice. I have not
> received a resp= onse from Roasbeef.

I followed up on this with achow directly and re= alized that she reached out
to me via a DM on IRC. I haven't lurked = on IRC for many many months now (but
this prompted me to lurk once again= !), so I missed the original message.

After DM'ing on X back and= forth a bit to get some clarity on the proposed
role, I'd be comfor= table with being added as one of the (3?) new BIP
editors. I think it= 9;s unfortunate that the BIP process has decayed over the
past year or s= o (particularly with all the new dev activity), so if I can
lend my time= to help restore the process, then I'd be happy to do so =F0=9F=AB=A1.<= br>
In terms of load, if I were to be added, given that we'd now hav= e 4 (?)
total BIP editors, I don't envision the load would be concen= trated on any
one individual.

-- Laolu


On Tue, Apr 16, 202= 4 at 10:24=E2=80=AFAM 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing Li= st <bitcoindev@googlegrou= ps.com> wrote:
While I don't disagree that 5 or 6 people seems like a lot to add= at
once, it's not clear to me how we should decide which subset of the nominees should be added. As it is now, I have only seen an actual
objection to Kanzure and Ruben from /dev/fd0, and no explicit objections to anyone else. It seems like the vast majority of people don't share <= br> their concerns either as both Kanzure and Ruben continue to be endorsed by many others.

Looking at the endorsements each candidate has received, the current
counts are:
* Kanzure - 17 for, 1 against
* Murch - 13 for
* Jonatack - 13 for
* Ruben - 12 for, 1 against
* Roasbeef - 9 for
* Michael Folkson - none

However, I don't want this process to become a popularity contest and <= br> require some kind of formal voting. Rather I'd prefer that this process=
be something more like how Bitcoin Core maintainers are added - by
achieving rough consensus. Without any explicit objections to any of
these candidates, I'm inclined to move forward with adding the 5 who have received endorsements. Having to pick "winners" from this li= st
seems like a quick way to stir up drama that I don't think anyone reall= y
wants to deal with.

I do want to note that neither Kanzure, Ruben, nor Roasbeef have posted on this list that they are willing to be BIP editors. I have reached out to all 3 of them privately, and received responses from Kanzure and
Ruben that indicate that they probably are willing, but public
confirmation from them on this list would also be nice. I have not
received a response from Roasbeef.

Ava

On 04/11/2024 10:22 AM, Sergi Delgado Segura wrote:
>=C2=A0 > I would prefer having more (9+?) than less folks on this ta= sk, so
> personal preferences are easily ignored and overwritten by the group <= br> > majority.
>
> I disagree with that, the more doesn't really the better here. Hav= ing
> too many editors may result in a tragedy of the commons, in which peop= le
> just commit to the job because many others do, and they do not end up =
> doing as much because they expect others to do the it. This does not <= br> > only make the process look bad but may burnout the ones that end up > doing the job, given their time commitment ends up being too far from =
> their expectations.
>
> I think being more moderate with the amount of people is better, and <= br> > gives us leeway in case the workload ends up being excessive and we ne= ed
> to add more people (plus discourage people from joining and slacking o= ff).
>
> I think 3 more people should be a good number to start from.
> I'd personally vouch for Murch, Kanzure, and Ruben based on their = track
> record in the space
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 4:30=E2=80=AFPM nvk <rdlfnvk@gmail.com
> <mailto:rdlf= nvk@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> +1 for
> Kanzure
> RubenSomsen
> Seccour
> Jon Atack
> Roasbeef
>
> I would prefer having more (9+?) than less folks on this task, so
> personal preferences are easily ignored and overwritten by the group > majority.
>
> BIPs were intended as a means to collect ideas, not enforce ideas.
>
> I'd like to return to that.
>
> - NVK (temp gmail account)
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 5:16:54=E2=80=AFPM UTC-= 4 David A. Harding wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On 2024-03-28 10:04, Matt Corallo wro= te:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Please provide justification ra= ther than simply saying "I
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0like Bob!".
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Using only comments from the mailing = list, the following appears
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to be
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the candidate list along with the cur= rent support. Asterisks denote
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0candidates who indicated their willin= gness to accept the role.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- Bryan "Kanzure" Bishop, r= ecommended by Ava Chow[1], Chris
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Stewart[3],
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Michael Folkson[6], Peter Todd[9], Ma= tt Corallo[10], Brandon
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Black[11],
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Antoine Riard[12], Murch[13], Antoine= Poinsot[15], John
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Carvalho[16]
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- Ruben Somsen, recommended by Ava Ch= ow[1], Chris Stewart[3],
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Michael
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Folkson[6], Antoine Riard[12], Murch[= 13], Antoine Poinsot[15], John
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Carvalho[16]
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- Jon Atack*, recommended by Luke Das= hjr[2], Chris Stewart[3],
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/dev/fd0[5][7],
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Brandon Black[11], Antoine Riard[12],= Ava Chow[14], John
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Carvalho[16]
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- Olaoluwa "Roasbeef" Osunt= okun, recommended by Chris
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Stewart[3], John
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0C. Vernaleo[4], /dev/fd0[5][7], Keaga= n McClelland[8], Antoine
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Riard[12], Ava Chow[14]
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- Mark "Murch" Erhardt*, re= commended by Michael Folkson[6], Keagan
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0McClelland[8], Matt Corallo[10], Bran= don Black[11], Antoine
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Riard[12],
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ava Chow[14]
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- Michael Folkson*
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Note: Luke Dashjr proposed[17] Seccou= r and Greg Tonoski for
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"non-dev
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0triaging", Tonoski proposed hims= elf[18] for "BIP editor", and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Antoine
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Riard[12] proposed Seccour for "= decentralized PM".
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I searched the BIPs repo by commenter= to see if any of the above
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0candidates had been especially active= there, which is listed
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0below as:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0total PRs they commented on (number s= till open/number closed).
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- 21 (1/20) commenter:kanzure
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- 3 (2/1) commenter:rubensomsen
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- 15 (0/15) commenter:jonatack
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- 18 (2/16) commenter:roasbeef
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- 10 (6/4) commenter:Murchandamus
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- 57 (6/51) commenter:michaelfolkson<= br> >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I'll also note that Osuntokun is = the only member of the set to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0have a
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0merged BIP that they co-authored, alt= hough I believe there are
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0far-along
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft BIPs for both Murch (terminolog= y) and Somsen (Silent
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Payments). I
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0don't think this should be a requ= irement, but I do think it
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0demonstrates
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0familiarity with the process.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Speaking only for myself, I think all= of the candidates above with
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0multiple recommendations from other c= ommunity participants are
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0fully
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0qualified for the role, so I'll o= nly provide a detailed
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0justification
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0for the person who would be my first = pick: Murch is not only a
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0longstanding and broadly liked Bitcoi= n contributor, but (as Corallo
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mentioned) he has worked on standardi= zing terminology through a
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0BIP. In addition, he provided an extr= emely detailed review of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0all 300
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pages of a draft of Mastering Bitcoin= (3rd edition) and has
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0reviewed
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0drafts of over 200 weekly Optech news= letters, in both cases
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0significantly improving the accuracy = and comprehensibility of the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0documentation. To me, that seems very= similar to the work we'd
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ask him
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to perform as a BIPs editor and it= 9;s something that he's already
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0doing,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0so I think there's an excellent f= it of person to role.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-Dave
>
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