From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B49BBCB for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 17:22:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-it0-f50.google.com (mail-it0-f50.google.com [209.85.214.50]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B4D9A3 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 17:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it0-f50.google.com with SMTP id m47so18627576iti.1 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:22:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=friedenbach-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l0HutJzE7OuNAGPp5HoxVmP/JnmgBSQjU6sVWEgPf3w=; b=WHOmOYVvaxzPFDDiZnIFnlvkUfcjCgXrR0AEvAyTqMC+2/Q1f70YmwwsgBTNQZmTzk hsJlzOAFiTEs3g67hRPQdcWaNWwguJj7a12PjwrjpWiq+hO2i2dEVrx/ohq3fvJJwW1O tU0ratB7lazHEg1E1QAenyCIoi3okalvD5YtM6PCYH58S4OjYhWBMSYxHg8pM1R0FB08 tjCHlOkE4TDawjCDBVDynZMy6no2WQUFmL82TrfNHIeONQ2jB30WJUa1VvBpd3zRTqr9 SjYtGpUzzZN7Hg3QfdonPvfb6Rpaq04nWXZwOmGA4kQCNknxMSHAXYgofcOgtYML8+k/ SmjA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l0HutJzE7OuNAGPp5HoxVmP/JnmgBSQjU6sVWEgPf3w=; b=OebHbaPYadj6W4egGM6Rh6A0dPkO1fNUAm4ubaYrjtwbh5O2a1xE40qAWDl8Dkv4vB 5dqWZLgLSqxnxWZn2VE0fUeC1DBguaS+9p1Y4QCOh7/iqRqPiGefXLGFmagdcWpbFSfu vjTX5xd9uXOMDM6r0MrT3nspipk2xB4nVL2LCwpU4WxH+XORs25bOJupK7uQAsjweJVJ YBOgjOmFcKtP+/yTBuY0qSTUh0+70Exv0Rtu7Wl9kPkj2wkGS3mbjr0s7SFNlEoDy+dp s+zePzAUKxXyqpHfE+SOb8jc6rO3eNZiVFugqtQTSUlrY9EpntWL8rOl+jJlUk7tbhSX nGbw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOzJ5r15gLPP9RFOeinSJvbDPiLpPrtQof7hwTljDqo2KEa9qvQn 83Ljsb2Qaxenoz/KwiYpWkbCB7kCUMEq X-Received: by 10.36.194.129 with SMTP id i123mr4549935itg.9.1497979358761; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:22:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.137.165 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:22:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [173.228.107.141] In-Reply-To: References: From: Mark Friedenbach Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:22:18 -0700 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Hampus_Sj=C3=B6berg?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 17:26:02 +0000 Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Miners forced to run non-core code in order to get segwit activated X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 17:22:42 -0000 I think it is very na=C3=AFve to assume that any shift would be temporary. We have a hard enough time getting miners to proactively upgrade to recent versions of the reference bitcoin daemon. If miners interpret the situation as being forced to run non-reference software in order to prevent a chain split because a lack of support from Bitcoin Core, that could be a one-way street. On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Hampus Sj=C3=B6berg via bitcoin-dev wrote: > I don't think it's a huge deal if the miners need to run a non-Core node > once the BIP91 deployment of Segwit2x happens. The shift will most likely= be > temporary. > > I agree that the "-bip148"-option should be merged, though. > > 2017-06-20 17:44 GMT+02:00 Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev > : >> >> Are we going to merge BIP91 or a -BIP148 option to core for inclusion in >> the next release or so? >> >> Because a large percentage of miners are indifferent, right now miners >> have to choose between BIP148 and Segwit2x if they want to activate Segw= it. >> >> Should we be forcing miners to choose to run non-core code in order to >> activate a popular feature? >> >> - Erik >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bitcoin-dev mailing list >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >