From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org (smtp1.osuosl.org [140.211.166.138]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD55C002D for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 11:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391C88401E for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 11:56:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp1.osuosl.org 391C88401E Authentication-Results: smtp1.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20210112 header.b=dgqwY5w8 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Twn12eCQzwos for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 11:56:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp1.osuosl.org 5828984001 Received: from mail-lf1-x134.google.com (mail-lf1-x134.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::134]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5828984001 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 11:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x134.google.com with SMTP id bp17so10820153lfb.3 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 04:56:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=rP8VtKgY/ErcEqN2J2/6y71cP1+HF/BVg1N3rpommHw=; b=dgqwY5w8Hs6aJUQwP01FZf1a96xKavGJsdrPvmBaBk6uEhKqza2HoawRyvBh3/uMpF 4ZPr06X4r6HEi+m/Hx7KgbzX3zF4xM0y9pWVESbF2wSVCyZVv4mc2j2mQ8KPW9N+YyV8 jzu4JtPiUwQO2F8rm6oWUU5JDCxrgBB/lMjIptBv7OZiuhD0Wq9ZSHuUIKY6qV3JQ2Kw 9kcuULbQld0UzfIaAgiLg33ibgDY/uvd1NikPmkD8WoEtq58LCOBBqUL3zSOV93yzO9F SjPBfYsXQlpa7h2Pl/5m2pEcE9vvXOZbCDs2yOV3i6kYB4EhRoU98N52sdcoI0z0W5VZ tBGg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=rP8VtKgY/ErcEqN2J2/6y71cP1+HF/BVg1N3rpommHw=; b=ir/GQ/nDGAoYobTA1XSlt5cFrYTFQ35STqK4wGVfK3OxPMG2GpGh7GB7IXSi6xqeMQ E976Sb8DGS3xFiASfREVyjGSoMxTrUv8gwc6iMt6rC0YKgs9FKYuuWGn0aOoS8X/+FIS OO5U6kNvacKY+iMcwnjL66F8cjswBs1ppvpI/UCFzFcz54Bm3rhgdnIEGjOOy4MC6yI/ D/u9LYqo/efjnqu2emXY0yQK++PNEqAvH9pZIuy3Hv59I3vfIYfs+m29bnQ/x7ysKpul ctiHbFhjhfVC/gOVNCQBBuryO2ajwBSB5aMk9prjpbvsLb8mXbTodaVv2sNdi56ut3CS V5rw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora+4ylZ1ZKPvReSz+gaq4OazyHTmoM9zl7M+BTuZRod/y2GV7mxQ TTvHMDZzdNCHzeTx8nutfm+lSpeQbGmJywcjLzcD+wY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1tuUQ6waEurqsqjxj+no+oxAbR0sPLcv5Vpb3ay/WCslymSa7cPOZWddU1BzJUc47yjEV/7Nce2Fb+44aGFr38= X-Received: by 2002:a19:ad07:0:b0:489:e247:39b3 with SMTP id t7-20020a19ad07000000b00489e24739b3mr1722567lfc.67.1657713404139; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 04:56:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: John Tromp Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 13:56:33 +0200 Message-ID: To: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 12:09:36 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Security problems with relying on transaction fees for security X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 11:56:47 -0000 > There's only one coin whose expected (soft) emission time is larger > than bitcoin's, and it's about an order of magnitude larger, at 50 > years. Make that two coins. For DOGE it is 33 years.