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But I will let him speak > for himself. Correction and my apologies - I thought (incorrectly) based on a reading of the last few related Delving posts[0] that CTV wasn't actually usable for BitVM, but I'm being told that it is. Great news! [0]: https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/how-ctv-csfs-improves-bitvm-bridges/1591/23 To me this emphasizes that preserving legacy CTV is a good move now; that way BitVM can meet its needs while more generic, ergonomic mechanisms like TXHASH undergo design and debate. James -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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> Worth noting that even after the dis= covery that this hack isn't a real
> use for CTV, Robin still sig= ned this letter. But I will let him speak
> for himself.

Corre= ction and my apologies - I thought (incorrectly) based on a reading=C2=A0
of the last few related Delving posts[0] that CTV wasn= 't actually=C2=A0
usable for BitVM, but I'm b= eing told that it is. Great news!


To me this emphasizes that preserving legacy CTV is a good move now; t= hat
way BitVM can meet its needs while more generic, ergonomic mechanism= s
like TXHASH undergo design and debate.

James

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