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From: Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail.com>
To: Jameson Lopp <jameson.lopp@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Why are we bleeding nodes?
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 14:26:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPg+sBhL+Lr_noM7hVB4w-tvX0LLK2bKbQTzAw=4WswyxNGboQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <534297B8.4060506@gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jameson Lopp <jameson.lopp@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one concerned about the consistent dropping of nodes. Though I think that the fundamental question should be: how many nodes do we really need? Obviously more is better, but it's difficult to say how concerned we should be without more information. I posted my thoughts last month: http://coinchomp.com/2014/03/19/bitcoin-nodes-many-enough/

In my opinion, the number of full nodes doesn't matter (as long as
it's enough to satisfy demand by other nodes).

What matters is how hard it is to run one. If someone is interesting
in verifying that nobody is cheating on the network, can they, and can
they without significant investment? Whether they actually will
depends also no how interesting the currency and its digital transfers
are.

> On 04/07/2014 07:34 AM, Mike Hearn wrote:
>> At the start of February we had 10,000 bitcoin nodes. Now we have 8,500 and
>> still falling:
>>
>>    http://getaddr.bitnodes.io/dashboard/chart/?days=60

My own network crawler (which feeds my DNS seeder) hasn't seen any
significant drop that I remember, but I don't have actual logs. It's
seeing around 6000 "well reachable nodes" currently, which is the
highest number I've ever seen (though it's been around 6000 for quite
a while now).

-- 
Pieter



  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-07 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-07 11:34 [Bitcoin-development] Why are we bleeding nodes? Mike Hearn
2014-04-07 12:17 ` Ricardo Filipe
2014-04-07 13:43   ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-04-07 14:05     ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-07 14:15       ` Eric Martindale
2014-04-07 14:23         ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-07 19:46         ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-04-08  3:13         ` kjj
2014-04-08  7:50           ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-09 10:38         ` Wendell
2014-04-09 11:15           ` Wladimir
2014-04-07 14:45       ` Tom Harding
2014-04-07 12:19 ` Jameson Lopp
2014-04-07 12:26   ` Pieter Wuille [this message]
2014-04-07 12:34     ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-07 12:34     ` Jameson Lopp
2014-05-20 18:38     ` Isidor Zeuner
2014-04-07 13:50 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 13:53   ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 13:58     ` Jameson Lopp
2014-04-07 14:04       ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-08 11:28   ` Jesus Cea
2014-04-07 15:45 ` Justus Ranvier
2014-04-07 15:53   ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 16:02     ` Jameson Lopp
2014-04-07 16:27     ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-04-07 16:57       ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 17:01         ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-04-07 17:16           ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 17:35             ` Brent Shambaugh
2014-04-07 17:40               ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-07 17:44                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 17:45                 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-07 17:50                 ` Justus Ranvier
2014-04-07 18:30                   ` Arne Brutschy
2014-04-07 17:56                 ` Brent Shambaugh
2014-04-07 17:46             ` Justus Ranvier
2014-04-07 17:39     ` Chris Williams
2014-04-07 18:23       ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-07 18:35         ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-07 18:49           ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 19:00             ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-07 18:48               ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-04-07 19:02               ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 19:05                 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-07 19:03               ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 19:13                 ` Tier Nolan
2014-04-07 19:20                 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-07 19:13                   ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-04-07 19:36                     ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-07 21:46                     ` Ricardo Filipe
2014-04-07 19:30                   ` Paul Lyon
2014-04-07 19:50                     ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-07 21:48                       ` Tier Nolan
2014-04-07 21:56                         ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-08  3:44             ` Jeff Garzik
2014-04-08  7:24               ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2014-04-08  7:59               ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-08 17:18       ` Andrew LeCody
2014-04-07 17:07 ` Drak
2014-05-20  8:15   ` bitcoingrant
2014-05-20  8:42     ` Mike Hearn
2014-05-20 14:37     ` Eugen Leitl
2014-05-20 14:52       ` Gmail
2014-05-20 18:46         ` Andy Alness
2014-05-20 19:17           ` Jeff Garzik
2014-05-20 20:09             ` Andy Alness
2014-05-20 20:22               ` Jeff Garzik
2014-04-07 21:55 Paul Lyon
2014-04-07 22:14 ` Tier Nolan

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