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From: Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail.com>
To: Michael Gronager <gronager@ceptacle.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Chain dust mitigation: Demurrage based Chain Vacuuming
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:33:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPg+sBhwUz4ddEXRT0p7mQUwHkqtTes1i88a-uqsa+QQs2n=CA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9CEDE4D4-3685-4F70-953E-15CC50A8AA3F@ceptacle.com>

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On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Michael Gronager <gronager@ceptacle.com>wrote:

> > If this were a proposal at the time Bitcoin was created, I would
> definitely be in favor, but I feel we can't just change such a policy right
> now - it's not what people signed up for when they started using the
> system. I also see no way to implement this without a hard fork, which
> would require planning at least 1-2 years in advance (imho). By that time,
> the economic landscape of Bitcoin may be vastly different, and either dust
> spam will have killed it, or we will have found another solution already.
>
> Bitcoin aka the blockchain is defined by the majority of the miners. This
> is what people have signed up to imo. A scheme that a) is of benefit for us
> all and b) is also of economical benefit for the miners, will likely be
> accepted quite fast - especially now when the bounty was just halved... I
> also fear that there is a lot of BTCs that is effectively un-owned and it
> could even drive Satoshi to use some of his BTCs ;)


I disagree completely. The only power granted to miners is to decide the
order of otherwise valid transactions (up to postponing some indefinitely)
- they have no ability to control the rules for validity them self  In
particular, the rules that prevent double spending and (monetary) inflation
of the currency are deliberately NOT left to miners. If this were the case,
they could just as well vote to keep the 50 BTC block payout, and that
would certainly not be what people signed up for.

-- 
Pieter

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-03 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-03 11:19 [Bitcoin-development] Chain dust mitigation: Demurrage based Chain Vacuuming Michael Gronager
2012-12-03 12:05 ` Pieter Wuille
2012-12-03 12:24   ` Michael Gronager
2012-12-03 12:33     ` Pieter Wuille [this message]
2012-12-03 15:02     ` Gregory Maxwell
2012-12-03 15:17       ` Alan Reiner
2012-12-03 15:30         ` Mike Hearn
2012-12-03 16:18           ` Stephen Pair
2012-12-03 16:29             ` Alan Reiner
2012-12-03 19:50               ` Andreas Petersson
2012-12-03 20:14                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2012-12-03 15:51         ` Gregory Maxwell
2012-12-03 12:40 ` Wladimir
2012-12-03 13:04   ` Michael Gronager
2012-12-03 15:00 ` Mike Hearn
2012-12-03 15:07   ` Gregory Maxwell
2012-12-03 15:09     ` Mike Hearn
2012-12-03 17:02 ` Mark Friedenbach
2012-12-04  9:54 ` Andy Parkins

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