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From: Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Toomim <j@toom.im>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block size: It's economics & user preparation & moral hazard
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 00:01:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPg+sBhxnxnQQ-SpWuJ-+_uxRwXkgcU07jkYdZ8BcBwVDyW-vg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <246AA3BE-570D-4B88-A63D-AC76CB2B0CB8@toom.im>

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On Dec 26, 2015 23:55, "Jonathan Toomim" <j@toom.im> wrote:
>
> On Dec 26, 2015, at 8:44 AM, Pieter Wuille via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> Furthermore, 75% is pretty terrible as a switchover point, as it
guarantees that old nodes will still see a 25% forked off chain temporarily.
>
> Yes, 75% plus a grace period is better. I prefer a grace period of about
4000 to 8000 blocks (1 to 2 months).

I think that's extremely short, even assuming there is no controversy about
changing the rules at all. Things like BIP65 and BIP66 already took
significantly longer than that, were uncontroversial, and only need miner
adoption. Full node adoption is even slower.

I think the shortest reasonable timeframe for an uncontroversial hardfork
is somewhere in the range between 6 and 12 months.

For a controversial one, not at all.

-- 
Pieter

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-26 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-16 14:53 [bitcoin-dev] Block size: It's economics & user preparation & moral hazard Jeff Garzik
2015-12-16 18:34 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-16 21:08   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-16 21:11     ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-17  2:06       ` Jameson Lopp
2015-12-17 16:58       ` Tier Nolan
2015-12-17 19:44         ` Peter Todd
2015-12-18  5:23           ` Jorge Timón
2015-12-18  9:44           ` Tier Nolan
2015-12-16 21:24     ` Jorge Timón
2015-12-16 21:36       ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-18  5:11   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-18  7:56     ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-18 10:13       ` sickpig
2015-12-18 15:48         ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-19 19:04           ` Dave Scotese
     [not found]           ` <751DFAA9-9013-4C54-BC1E-5F7ECB7469CC@gmail.com>
2015-12-26 16:44             ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-26 17:20               ` Jorge Timón
2015-12-26 22:55               ` Jonathan Toomim
2015-12-26 23:01                 ` Pieter Wuille [this message]
2015-12-26 23:07                   ` Jonathan Toomim
2015-12-26 23:16                     ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-27  0:03                       ` Jonathan Toomim
2015-12-26 23:15                   ` Justus Ranvier
2015-12-27  0:13                     ` Bryan Bishop
2015-12-27  0:33                       ` Justus Ranvier
2015-12-18 13:56       ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-23  6:26   ` Aaron Voisine
2015-12-16 18:36 ` jl2012
2015-12-16 22:27   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-17  6:12     ` Dave Scotese

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