From: Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail.com>
To: Wladimir <laanwj@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Bitcoind-in-background mode for SPV wallets
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 13:32:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPg+sBjWL_hKhWW-6i=WAHnx+Ue5JE=A9RrxnWuAYOXw19qiDw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+s+GJCQSCUyq7Ajv0EgZ8Vbcv4Xt7G-y_8D12fsoKjyFjnhwg@mail.gmail.com>
There were earlier discussions.
The two ideas were either using one or a few service bits to indicate
availability of blocks, or to extend addr messages with some flags to
indicate this information.
I wonder whether we can't have a hybrid: bits to indicate general
degree of availability of blocks (none, only recent, everything), but
indicate actual availability only upon actually connecting (through a
"version" extension, or - preferably - a separate message). Reason is
that the actual blocks available are likely to change frequently (if
you keep the last week of blocks, a 3-day old addr entry will have
quite outdated information), and not that important to actual peer
selection - only to drive the decision which blocks to ask after
connection.
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Wladimir <laanwj@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Tamas Blummer <tamas@bitsofproof.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Serving headers should be default but storing and serving full blocks
>> configurable to ranges, so people can tailor to their bandwith and space
>> available.
>
>
> I do agree that it is important.
>
> This does require changes to the P2P protocol, as currently there is no way
> for a node to signal that they store only part of the block chain. Also,
> clients will have to be modified to take this into account. Right now they
> are under the assumption that every full node can send them every (previous)
> block.
>
> What would this involve?
>
> Do you know of any previous work towards this?
>
> Wladimir
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-10 11:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-09 15:29 [Bitcoin-development] Bitcoind-in-background mode for SPV wallets Wladimir
2014-04-09 15:37 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-09 15:41 ` Natanael
2014-04-09 15:54 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-09 16:09 ` Thomas Voegtlin
2014-04-09 19:25 ` Wladimir
2014-04-10 6:04 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-10 11:09 ` Wladimir
2014-04-10 11:29 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-10 11:32 ` Pieter Wuille [this message]
2014-04-10 11:43 ` Peter Todd
2014-04-10 11:50 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-10 11:54 ` Peter Todd
2014-04-10 17:30 ` Tier Nolan
2014-04-11 16:54 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-05-04 21:11 ` Tier Nolan
2014-04-09 17:31 ` Wladimir
2014-04-09 15:42 ` Brian Hoffman
2014-04-09 15:57 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-09 16:09 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-09 15:47 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-04-09 16:27 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-09 17:46 ` Peter Todd
2014-04-09 17:50 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-09 18:00 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-09 18:19 ` Wladimir
2014-04-09 18:35 ` Justus Ranvier
2014-04-09 18:46 ` Wladimir
2014-04-09 18:50 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-09 18:58 ` Justus Ranvier
2014-04-09 19:33 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-09 20:12 ` slush
2014-04-09 20:31 ` slush
2014-04-09 20:36 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-04-09 21:04 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-09 20:37 ` Wladimir
2014-04-09 20:35 ` Wladimir
2014-04-09 20:50 ` slush
2014-04-09 20:55 ` Laszlo Hanyecz
2014-04-10 6:38 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-10 6:50 ` Wladimir
2014-04-10 7:09 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-10 9:33 ` Peter Todd
2014-04-10 7:10 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-10 9:17 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-10 9:39 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-10 10:40 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-10 10:44 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-10 11:36 ` Peter Todd
2014-04-10 11:45 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-10 11:52 ` Peter Todd
2014-04-10 9:47 ` Peter Todd
2014-04-09 18:04 ` Peter Todd
[not found] ` <CA+s+GJBpvqqu=XEojyekx5su+JfYLwz+zsbo8L0=5t6s-_b33w@mail.gmail.com>
2014-04-09 17:35 ` [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: " Wladimir
2014-04-09 16:03 ` [Bitcoin-development] " Peter Todd
2014-04-09 17:33 ` Alex Mizrahi
2014-04-09 17:38 ` Wladimir
2014-04-09 17:38 ` Peter Todd
2014-04-09 18:35 ` Kevin
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