From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 258EC20C3 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2015 16:10:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 12:02:21 by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from hapkido.dreamhost.com (hapkido.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.122]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFCE1F3 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2015 16:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (homie.mail.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.208]) by hapkido.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36C69C900 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 21:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6A928408C; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 21:08:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=taoeffect.com; h= content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; s=taoeffect.com; bh=X/4TAYso4MjPb7O2/ ygPGRwrX30=; b=BJ6LsvbBaZSwNrl5ZRHJ+te/FuYKSyaIe8XzZIbJbPMPZ367m /ZblV1XFSKEZxiNQUbvY25aG+CcsI0Yi7PUDftsx3TrlDNueiVUQu7kyDl9T3X+j TWdZjAWiEUBSQUfp1J+PCjA4frzCQ5mnjPBQaS9e/RWNQdyU1OXNQ3IyNo= Received: from [192.168.42.65] (50-0-163-57.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.0.163.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: contact@taoeffect.com) by homiemail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C75528406A; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 21:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_64618EFF-8952-4E08-B551-89B83476C08E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.1 From: Tao Effect In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 21:08:21 -0700 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 465365300.776538-f523b3a6285a9c4958a325ef174c47ca Message-Id: References: <20150927185031.GA20599@savin.petertodd.org> To: Mike Hearn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,PLING_QUERY, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: [bitcoin-dev] Crossing the line? [Was: Re: Let's deploy BIP65 CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY!] X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:10:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_64618EFF-8952-4E08-B551-89B83476C08E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E4D05E53-DA22-45B8-9D93-905225892E06" --Apple-Mail=_E4D05E53-DA22-45B8-9D93-905225892E06 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear list, Mike has made a variety of false and damaging statements about Bitcoin, = of which this is but one: > On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev = wrote: > I coined the term SPV so I know exactly what it means, and bitcoinj = implements it, as does BreadWallet (the other big SPV implementation). On his website Vinumeris.com he writes: > Vinumeris was founded in 2014 by Mike Hearn, one of the developers of = the Bitcoin digital currency system. On plan99.net there are several embedded videos = that refer to him a =E2=80=9Ccore developer=E2=80=9D of Bitcoin. And now = it seems he is claiming to be Satoshi. It seems to me that Mike=E2=80=99s emails, false statements (like the = one above about coining SPV), arguments, and his attempts to steal = control of Bitcoin via the contentious Bitcoin XT fork, represent = actions that have been harming and dividing this community for several = years now. In many communities/tribes, there exists a line that, once crossed, = results in the expulsion of a member from the community. So, two questions: 1. Does the Bitcoin-devs mailing list have such a line? 2. If so, does the community feel that Mike Hearn has crossed it? (I = personally feel he has. Multiple times.) Thanks for your thoughts, Greg Slepak -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also = sharing with the NSA. --Apple-Mail=_E4D05E53-DA22-45B8-9D93-905225892E06 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Dear list,

Mike has made a variety of false and = damaging statements about Bitcoin, of which this is but one:

On Sep = 30, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> = wrote:
I coined the term SPV so I know = exactly what it means, and bitcoinj implements it, as does BreadWallet = (the other big SPV = implementation).

On his website = Vinumeris.com he = writes:

Vinumeris was founded in = 2014 by Mike Hearn, one of the developers of the Bitcoin digital = currency system.

On plan99.net there are = several embedded videos that refer to him a =E2=80=9Ccore developer=E2=80=9D= of Bitcoin. And now it seems he is claiming to be Satoshi.

It seems to me that = Mike=E2=80=99s emails, false statements (like the one above about = coining SPV), arguments, and his attempts to steal control of Bitcoin = via the contentious Bitcoin XT fork, represent actions that have been = harming and dividing this community for several years now.

In many = communities/tribes, there exists a line that, once crossed, results in = the expulsion of a member from the community.

So, two questions:

1. Does the Bitcoin-devs = mailing list have such a line?
2. If so, does the = community feel that Mike Hearn has crossed it? (I personally feel he = has. Multiple times.)

Thanks for your thoughts,
Greg = Slepak

--
Please do not email me anything that you are not = comfortable also sharing with the NSA.

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