From: Eric Voskuil <eric@voskuil.org>
To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Surprisingly, Tail Emission Is Not Inflationary
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2022 13:54:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D50AEC8C-4EEC-4C17-8626-87C651F1AA66@voskuil.org> (raw)
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Yet you posted several links which made that specific correlation, to which I was responding.
Math cannot prove how much coin is “lost”, and even if it was provable that the amount of coin lost converges to the amount produced, it is of no consequence - for the reasons I’ve already pointed out. The amount of market production has no impact on market price, just as it does not with any other good.
The reason to object to perpetual issuance is the impact on censorship resistance, not on price.
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> On Jul 9, 2022, at 08:31, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 09, 2022 at 08:24:51AM -0700, Eric Voskuil wrote:
>> To clarify, price inflation is not caused by market production. Attributing the observed lack of inflation (eg fee %) to loss is an assumed relation.
>
> My article is a mathematical proof that has nothing to do with observations of
> inflation.
>
> What I did is prove that if there is tail emission/fixed supply, the coin
> supply will converge towards a fixed amount because the coin supply dependant
> rate of coin loss balances out the fixed rate of coin production.
>
> That proof has nothing to do with market dynamics and would happen in any
> system, economic or not, with similar underlying dynamics.
>
> --
> https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-09 20:54 Eric Voskuil [this message]
2022-07-09 21:59 ` [bitcoin-dev] Surprisingly, Tail Emission Is Not Inflationary ZmnSCPxj
2022-07-10 14:17 ` alicexbt
2022-07-10 16:38 ` alicexbt
2022-07-10 17:29 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-10 17:27 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-10 18:12 ` vjudeu
2022-07-18 11:34 ` David A. Harding
2022-07-18 19:14 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-07-18 21:48 ` Eric Voskuil
2022-07-25 15:04 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-07-26 15:44 ` jk_14
2022-07-26 17:05 ` Erik Aronesty
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2022-08-19 5:34 vjudeu
2022-08-18 20:22 jk_14
2022-08-17 13:43 jk_14
2022-08-18 15:29 ` Breno Brito
2022-08-18 15:44 ` Billy Tetrud
2022-08-18 20:49 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-08-17 8:54 jk_14
2022-08-16 16:05 Peter
2022-08-19 17:21 ` aliashraf.btc At protonmail
2022-08-20 15:30 ` Billy Tetrud
2022-08-15 21:46 jk_14
2022-08-17 11:10 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-07-26 20:01 jk_14
2022-07-19 18:36 Peter
2022-07-20 14:35 ` Eric Voskuil
2022-07-10 17:42 Eric Voskuil
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2022-07-10 7:44 ` John Tromp
2022-07-09 22:21 Peter
2022-07-09 20:53 Eric Voskuil
2022-07-09 14:57 John Tromp
2022-07-09 15:13 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-11 18:44 ` Dave Scotese
2022-07-09 12:46 Peter Todd
2022-07-09 14:26 ` Eric Voskuil
2022-07-09 15:15 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-09 15:24 ` Eric Voskuil
2022-07-09 15:31 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-09 17:43 ` naman naman
2022-07-09 17:48 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-10 6:54 ` naman naman
2022-07-10 2:10 ` Tobin Harding
2022-07-10 7:08 ` vjudeu
2022-07-11 18:25 ` Larry Ruane
2022-07-10 10:18 ` Jacob Eliosoff
2022-07-11 2:32 ` Anthony Towns
2022-07-11 6:15 ` Stefan Richter
2022-07-11 10:42 ` Giuseppe B
2022-07-11 12:56 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-07-11 23:57 ` Anthony Towns
2022-07-13 18:29 ` Zac Greenwood
2022-07-11 16:59 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-11 17:44 ` Bram Cohen
2022-07-13 14:06 ` Alfred Hodler
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