From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DE597A1 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 01:03:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from st11p02im-asmtp001.me.com (st11p02im-asmtp001.me.com [17.172.220.113]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F9A8FD for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 01:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.52.6.2] (unknown [101.78.135.131]) by st11p02im-asmtp001.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Mar 31 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0NRY00FF9W9Q9R10@st11p02im-asmtp001.me.com> for bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 01:03:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-07-24_01:2015-07-22, 2015-07-23, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1507240010 Sun-Java-System-SMTP-Warning: Lines longer than SMTP allows found and wrapped. Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Jean-Paul Kogelman X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12H143) In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:03:26 +0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: References: <55B113AF.40500@thinlink.com> <6F436293-9E2B-461C-B105-FC4CF9EBFC69@gmail.com> <42BF7FEB-320F-43BE-B3D9-1D76CB8B9975@gmai> <346D4CE0-E00D-4ABB-B131-EFA1416CB20C@me.com> <29363BE6-72A7-4D06-A974-C52BA12FD8BD@gmail.com> <55FFBC8F-A3C9-4109-89C7-AC359FBBD478@me.com> <4734381C-2000-4D9B-9099-DDE3D38D64A3@me.com> To: Peter Todd X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Jean-Paul Kogelman via bitcoin-dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core and hard forks X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 01:03:32 -0000 Doesn't matter. It's not going to be perfect given the block time variance among other facto= rs but it's far more workable than guessing whether or not your transaction i= s going to end up in a block at all. jp > On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:53 AM, Peter Todd wrote: >=20 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 23 July 2015 20:49:20 GMT-04:00, Jean-Paul Kogelman via bitcoin-dev wrote: >>=20 >> And it's obvious how a size cap would interfere with such a QoS scheme. >> Miners wouldn't be able to deliver the below guarantees if they have to >> start excluding transactions. >=20 > As mining is a random, poisson process, obviously giving guarantees withou= t a majority of hashing power isn't possible. >=20 >=20 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >=20 > iQE9BAEBCAAnIBxQZXRlciBUb2RkIDxwZXRlQHBldGVydG9kZC5vcmc+BQJVsYyK > AAoJEMCF8hzn9Lnc47AH/28WlecQLb37CiJpcvXO9tC4zqYEodurtB9nBHTSJrug > VIEXZW53pSTdd3vv2qpGIlHxuYP8QmDSATztwQLuN6XWEszz7TO8MXBfLxKqZyGu > i83WqSGjMAfwqjl0xR1G7PJgt4+E+0vaAFZc98vLCgZnedbiXRVtTGjhofG1jjTc > DFMwMZHP0eqWTwtWwqUvnA7PTFHxdqoJruY/t1KceN+JDbBCJWMxBDswU64FXcVH > 0ecsk9nhLMyylBX/2v4HjCXyayocH8jQ+FpLSP0xxERyS+f1npFX9cxFMq24uXqn > PcnZfLfaSJ6gMbmhbYG5wYDKN3u732j7dLzSJnMW6jk=3D > =3DLY1+ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >=20