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[76.167.237.202]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id oq3sm1782141pdb.75.2015.08.19.13.04.17 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_ECD56AA5-F47B-4503-AF18-5FD1AC70853A"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5 From: Eric Lombrozo In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:04:16 -0700 Message-Id: References: <20150819182010.GB12306@muck> <55D4D9C3.5070004@riseup.net> To: =?utf-8?Q?Jorge_Tim=C3=B3n?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:04:21 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_ECD56AA5-F47B-4503-AF18-5FD1AC70853A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 FWIW, I would fully like to see the consensus stuff split off into a separate = organization from everything else. Let XT continue to support additional = p2p messages or relay policies or whatever. Let Mike and Gavin argue for = their improved wallet or whatever - I have absolutely no problem with = that. But the consensus code should NOT be subject to the same commit = policies=E2=80=A6and we should make an effort to separate the two = clearly. And we should find a way to communicate the difference = succinctly and clearly to laypeople (which is something I think the XT = opponents have been horrible at doing so far). > On Aug 19, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n = wrote: >=20 > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev > wrote: >> [...] >> core devs=E2=80=9D and relying on the fact that many people out there = can=E2=80=99t seem to >> tell the difference between a source code fork and a blockchain fork. >=20 > And this is precisely why we should make perfectly clear that we're > not against a code fork where Hearn or anyone else acts as a > "benevolent dictator", just against the controversial hardfork it is > attempting to deploy. > Otherwise the PR battle is probably lost (which may mean users sell > all their BTC for XTBTC [or just forget about their BTC and only care > about their XTBTC]). --Apple-Mail=_ECD56AA5-F47B-4503-AF18-5FD1AC70853A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJV1OFAAAoJEJNAI64YFENUP6oP/iNMV3Ko1JwSjHM7rqX5hAml UeNdQAbM43K+F2oVnk6pQb3bkTCTegWIWIRRAupFRIGsN7DKtKR9C1SScLHDU+PY 1zpnIF0DbKIp5XqxC/R8m7gEwkBHf50kkw/lOc8K2DCXWE9SVGQIpJ7oZ2N0Nima +u8r5tUSRmePc/tVqzO6012t6tO+FeIfFwtyE9ULbItOQXD07xtbYVcPzSRkKEX/ GtIfQrFRtD+P+nGlKmRY/UbmrWelWBEDLPSvwrbDz829w6pwHqTyffybVl1uXurw keHxowIRoYA4XA631P/IccK7GMjgsLepHXjI8K2+tNR9YrW4v65PUM73sKAQ0DPk cmHz6ejcCmNJYHAbH4NleeGCz5cp/EZWhwfS9GRp3rcQiL8LGJxscnG39ztqRvDB VVuvlfd1H0j6mTZitU2JIjCRxYigiPjH6ODNSrxIaL0qjW3GFrS40VNlVmPLKsD4 0eAPsiRA+q65/Ry7nOEVQMY5k0syspUVZVtkM845rp8pZBdAxtKKWDgaM5wgLU+Y qoXZIRYLr8LIIcBh28qljNZVdDTR/cywGoyn34Ve1R1qZ6YcOEAIikimvnJmKDsD 2/dyeJu0aeM8YlaZlSU+oFDcYXK4P/NcEFUv79Sp/Yp05vG1NNt0oKk/a8sSZUxB kf92siNtM4ybbctAUuNp =T4pv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_ECD56AA5-F47B-4503-AF18-5FD1AC70853A--