From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org (smtp2.osuosl.org [140.211.166.133]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0204CC0032 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 13:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BDA4051D for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 13:51:27 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp2.osuosl.org C9BDA4051D Authentication-Results: smtp2.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key, unprotected) header.d=proton.me header.i=@proton.me header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=protonmail header.b=d7aRUXfV X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.102 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.102 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kxSPn1NjgvSv for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 13:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-41104.protonmail.ch (mail-41104.protonmail.ch [185.70.41.104]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B3F840A9B for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 13:51:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp2.osuosl.org 0B3F840A9B Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2023 13:50:30 +0000 Authentication-Results: mail-41104.protonmail.ch; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=proton.me header.i=@proton.me header.b="d7aRUXfV" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=protonmail; t=1690984241; x=1691243441; bh=Xs1J1mmvc9Z11Pud/9nsNZ5NGt4H9Li2HP4EyKxLnWs=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date: Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID:Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=d7aRUXfVrFfIr+yz7I3K1gRDuxAmfBRnMekIQbXkUTKoh9MCUnvGIBPn61XHRW8vJ r3iyiSUOZZ7naHgSlUzM/lG4YxHyl5p4z9hHt3pkGtu7TXGt+/uNuIuoNOGkbaRdOh zYMtBSXxCG+7sekpFnf8yVohT2xKSFNLzb5dXmmch+RX2kji+T41dhXNERUVdDFgi/ mCxJ/i8TqaFCbahpv5A0sLSxvHHSNdWuz1rTd3B7KgFzbhoIRVdvrbYcKcPGMiulst c/xd0G592kU1zMwASYtESfzJBtacjzAP1VCc2RTzQHZp80QaTI8v1Huj2+DBIKok8X JJdp3gH9ZcztQ== To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Keagan McClelland From: Einherjar Message-ID: Feedback-ID: 78313584:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="------eca7aca6586fc1a5718219ad8c421bd264fea599bca2397156c1b1300dcddc95"; charset=utf-8 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 02 Aug 2023 15:22:51 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Concern about "Inscriptions". (Keagan McClelland) X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2023 13:51:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------eca7aca6586fc1a5718219ad8c421bd264fea599bca2397156c1b1300dcddc95 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary=---------------------1060113ebabf863df03e9b80653437fe -----------------------1060113ebabf863df03e9b80653437fe Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 About price space in the UTXO set: I am highly concerned with that proposal. The reason is this could restrict users to do proper UTXO management and l= ead to doxing and privacy issues. Now there are few costs associated to ha= ving lots of UTXOs, mainly fees associated with spending low-valued UTXOs. > There is an open question as to whether or not we should figure out a wa= y > to price space in the UTXO set. I think it is fair to say that given the > fact that the UTXO set space remains unpriced that we actually have no w= ay > to determine whether some of these transactions are spam or not. The UTX= O > set must be maintained by all nodes including pruned nodes, whereas main > block and witness data do not have the same type of indefinite footprint= , > so in some sense it is an even more significant resource than chain spac= e. > We may very well discover that if we price UTXOs in a way that reflect t= he > resource costs that usage of inscriptions would vanish. The trouble thou= gh > is that such a mechanism would imply having to pay "rent" for an "accoun= t" > with Bitcoin, a proposition that would likely be offensive to a signific= ant > portion of the Bitcoin user base. > = > Cheers, > Keags Einherjar - E7ED 7E35 F072 CA83 Sent with Proton Mail secure email. -----------------------1060113ebabf863df03e9b80653437fe Content-Type: application/pgp-keys; filename="publickey - realeinherjar@proton.me - 0xBF60A699.asc"; name="publickey - realeinherjar@proton.me - 0xBF60A699.asc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="publickey - realeinherjar@proton.me - 0xBF60A699.asc"; name="publickey - realeinherjar@proton.me - 0xBF60A699.asc" LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgUFVCTElDIEtFWSBCTE9DSy0tLS0tCgp4ak1FWkl6YnlSWUpLd1lCQkFI YVJ3OEJBUWRBWFVRS3dqTXRTdDJEMm1WaDhjbUpMY0pIOVI5bUgrMUgKbW1USWxQUFpyNHJOTVhK bFlXeGxhVzVvWlhKcVlYSkFjSEp2ZEc5dUxtMWxJRHh5WldGc1pXbHVhR1Z5CmFtRnlRSEJ5YjNS dmJpNXRaVDdDakFRUUZnb0FQZ1dDWkl6YnlRUUxDUWNJQ1pEbjdYNDE4SExLZ3dNVgpDQW9FRmdB Q0FRSVpBUUtiQXdJZUFSWWhCTDlncHBrNE1kUUJtQ2hLTytmdGZqWHdjc3FEQUFEU2dnRC8KYXpC SWZ2dXhHMko0UGVQYTNKK2tIZWdhbW1uejhCRWFIWFB4WU4xb3dRb0JBTDcwSGVPY1VhU2JwTitC Cm5YRDVIUC8rMitNK1FvSVRHSW03S2JCdExhZ0p6amdFWkl6YnlSSUtLd1lCQkFHWFZRRUZBUUVI UUIxMApMSFVqOUhFazdEcHJkVnp4aDRSVkRQVElYRDVwK1pNdVl0ditFQnBJQXdFSUI4SjRCQmdX Q0FBcUJZSmsKak52SkNaRG43WDQxOEhMS2d3S2JEQlloQkw5Z3BwazRNZFFCbUNoS08rZnRmalh3 Y3NxREFBQVEvUUQrCkpkaEJxS1JVNEtpNUVUQUM2VnN6aGhsbmxJWWlTSnhMN1gvaEw5cXZwWWdB L1JybldpQXgrb3U1dXU2aAo5K2RWTkdHRDkybStHQmdOUjh6QkkxZXhRMFVDCj1aUHRzCi0tLS0t RU5EIFBHUCBQVUJMSUMgS0VZIEJMT0NLLS0tLS0K -----------------------1060113ebabf863df03e9b80653437fe-- --------eca7aca6586fc1a5718219ad8c421bd264fea599bca2397156c1b1300dcddc95 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: ProtonMail wnUEARYKACcFgmTKXwYJkOftfjXwcsqDFiEEv2CmmTgx1AGYKEo75+1+NfBy yoMAAOR9AP9beKIFnucZ/C6E4ZAmddc9uYVTPPUlQwnhORXQUU+3/gD/YCqj AEH5ImDig9XGoEHr0uShUazItjrUulxcEjUktQ0= =6nge -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------eca7aca6586fc1a5718219ad8c421bd264fea599bca2397156c1b1300dcddc95--