From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 041EF120B for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 19:05:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail2.protonmail.ch (mail2.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.22]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 133DDFE for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 19:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 14:04:57 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=default; t=1518980705; bh=T3HKk7vJDddKRHqxGbZNEOtzU8Aoj6ltaRTvCRQmgSI=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From; b=TF8MuYUaP2dgEhswXrFHvtVlgQCz9kXNP1yH38PJtPnr9FsjDinBr96Sjgu2w40m9 R30YCPXKete7wWjn+f6Y2aw4NyMU+VcUvZi8O/Wk9f1lVIKgpmYDzJmtcblG/CmEpE ziL4SMqdLRE9lrH5pI2jSx1jKJ7+ChPKuzG4WjoA= To: Eric Voskuil From: rhavar@protonmail.com Reply-To: rhavar@protonmail.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5E8E7227-8F90-40A2-B3D6-CA9D03CD3FEC@voskuil.org> References: <640e2daf-343d-62be-d6da-a2c1b4bc2bfd@cannon-ciota.info> <9IZu22-jNUMzMcq7VK0qdzd2tj333lWOhOUe3A5V6OUaFlpQiS8lRFm-ZdGew4Im5KQ9qF4nF3WT3QugHMVrOi3Lr82FvyH9w-XG32NH7oQ=@protonmail.com> <5E8E7227-8F90-40A2-B3D6-CA9D03CD3FEC@voskuil.org> Feedback-ID: RdfuD--Ffc-FNb_4UIG1XA3s5stj1f6Yt84KENdha_3WoiW3STYpu7X5uGR72LvTfQZpxEhSRHGSlNfV5XM5RA==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 19:06:14 +0000 Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Increased blockspace enabled by SegWit limited to just witness data? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 19:05:10 -0000 > No rule has been =E2=80=9Creplaced=E2=80=9D. It really has been. The code is no longer checks the size of a block, but t= he weight of it. For all intents and purposes the block size limits has bee= n replaced in favor of a block weight limit. It's just been designed such t= hat the new rule is more restrictive than the one it replaces. Now, I'm not doubting you can argue the semantics on the difference between= "replacing with a more restrictive rule" and "leaving the existing rules, = but adding a new one" -- but it's uninteresting and only serves to confuse = novice's like CANNON into thinking that there are two rules/spaces/limits f= or transactions. =E2=80=8B-Ryan =E2=80=8B -------- Original Message -------- On February 18, 2018 1:39 PM, Eric Voskuil wrote: >As a soft fork, all preceding rules remain in effect. No rule has been = =E2=80=9Creplaced=E2=80=9D. Blocks must validate against pre-segwit rules o= r are invalid. Additional rules are applied that further restrict validity,= and consider additional (witness) data in the context of the block. > > e > >>On Feb 18, 2018, at 09:04, Ryan Havar via bitcoin-dev bitcoin-dev@lists.l= inuxfoundation.org wrote: >>No, you are misunderstanding. The block size limit (1MB) has been replace= d in favor of a block weight limit (4M weight). Bytes which must be sent to= old clients are weighted at 4 units each which is what allows it to be a s= oft fork. >>So as such, there's not two separate limits or anything. >>P.S. what's up with your signature lol >>=E2=80=8B-Ryan >>=E2=80=8B >>-------- Original Message -------- >>>On February 18, 2018 11:26 AM, CANNON via bitcoin-dev bitcoin-dev@lists.= linuxfoundation.org wrote: >>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA512 >>>I have a question in reference to the increased blockspace enabled >>> by the segregated witness upgrade. Is this extra blockspace beyond >>> the legacy 1 MB limit limited to just witness data? >>>Cannon >>> PGP Fingerprint: 2BB5 15CD 66E7 4E28 45DC 6494 A5A2 2879 3F06 E832 >>> Email: cannon@cannon-ciota.info >>>NOTICE: ALL EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE NOT SIGNED/ENCRYPTED WITH PGP SHOULD >>> BE CONSIDERED POTENTIALLY FORGED, AND NOT PRIVATE. >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJaiajLAAoJEAYDai9lH2mwDbMQAKgJseZG9oOoP9WJlESFdAzm >>> jLM69KLF4RVWDQjMWCtyVayyolXMLavW6fL4GL7/ztLYSl9Pz+FDlH3Qgo1GLDx4 >>> fRUkmb0ApLBSAjmdqM+kWjgq3s6/oZaIkNxGeyK5SYY4QhF80Z42PWLBPKjAc7vn >>> pe7Im13NwtyJiRuCmq4e1z6GmW86fFOKOsR4rlWcftHOFmH8Gz5d9KK9LbPqU6Ca >>> +rde8yb+A9uXEv3O9MqeLId7FYSJixgzFGJosidVkAVQI7YZ0TAfG4HSwKjtqDz7 >>> SW2Bs3nDeiCr2QN7Su9TUaoSN/yKTBOw5jnql9cNOYuf4GAG0MXWinmYP8MWCiqh >>> bIrzvOnlZGapX/36Fpab67VDcFnXJJc8ofqYmn+oUoW/q7geQpu/V1oz+AR9nD/d >>> n8wFxvZdRlTbq2XDXySaontxNH0rd80fSG5SJtO5Js9hK/vNG+Xa7Zc+76gEtvlF >>> 5G1F6MOcsoXUDCnMteuNxaZx6TPML6RuWVmbR1wXOaX4qZ01p7AsjQlTIcrlVDsB >>> LVGW70wjfETBCffn1JQvFmIK7NzggIUuYfLF0IrfM4BrTa/01RnmfBOpWGiIvyIG >>> qZqKLYDbW7BDkc/HMtAonR/0t6bTUv/388USSnbMakO9bvih0xxIw4NWTyoSoef/ >>> I+W6ny7qXt+pegLF4cYL >>> =3DYqEM >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>bitcoin-dev mailing list >>>bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >>>https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >>> >>bitcoin-dev mailing list >>bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >>https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >> >