From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org (smtp2.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::133]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5351FC002D for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2022 04:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DC8415C4 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2022 04:30:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp2.osuosl.org 05DC8415C4 Authentication-Results: smtp2.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key, unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=fm1 header.b=vHfkmq+v X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.602 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.602 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cr75d7sdrZ-7 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2022 04:30:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp2.osuosl.org 418FF405E0 Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.19]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 418FF405E0 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2022 04:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id E788932005CA; Thu, 1 Dec 2022 23:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 01 Dec 2022 23:30:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:date:feedback-id :feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to :x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm1; t=1669955432; x=1670041832; bh=gwS8ZvXZdyWLQpdXFreevF1lkyEU Z6sZkHdWJNXAC5w=; b=vHfkmq+vtIc3+PEZ2I6+k2xwtdsFZa0q+X6aImXm5Ajb 9kJ5aI2Vl4uJwcrr8psMqI0jnX0rtrGmQ6Ym0/Imad/6ixwCl+gs6iogbFZ8+Ma9 KirmnDUp7dHDsgxAzbHCg/7lY48N1m63DvuVWWy7qsdBgAYBoiXxYWWrZLX1+w0B Bty7klwQ9i2gr8mBpWa7Oe7iZ9DJj0t14b/BS7dzS6pUfljNAZgzKEU0JXp/AD8Q lkNddXic5xMPjKNjSDMtcoX25NTAvEMPaHQD8Iyf8jRFr9lpewUBv/oT0g6GsRyr PHGgWPf03mm0LqEZ4BeUiHhlHMZQlu3KXtfMY30knw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrtdeigdejfecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvdenucfhrhhomheprfgvthgvrhcu vfhougguuceophgvthgvsehpvghtvghrthhouggurdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrh hnpeeivddvleeikeejueekgfdtleefgeehheelffeuheetgefhleevjeefleegvefffeen ucffohhmrghinhepphgvthgvrhhtohguugdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpe dtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehpvghtvgesphgvthgvrhhtohguugdrohhr gh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i525146e8:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 1 Dec 2022 23:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 55D665F8D7; Thu, 1 Dec 2022 23:30:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 23:30:28 -0500 From: Peter Todd To: Daniel Lipshitz , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiPfFGFYyqtknAA8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Opt-in full-RBF] Zero-conf apps in immediate danger X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2022 04:30:36 -0000 --YiPfFGFYyqtknAA8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 01, 2022 at 02:27:16PM +0200, Daniel Lipshitz via bitcoin-dev w= rote: > Statistics for consideration as a sample of the zero conf use case - >=20 >=20 > 1. As of end of Nov 2022 - GAP600 has processed i.e responded to circa > 15M transactions > 2. These transactions have a cumulative value of 2.3B USD value. > 3. We currently are seeing circa 1.5M transactions queired per month. I'm curious, what are the time frames involved in those figures? 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