From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::136]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25ACC002B for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2023 18:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FF06068A for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2023 18:06:21 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp3.osuosl.org B5FF06068A Authentication-Results: smtp3.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mail.wpsoftware.net header.i=@mail.wpsoftware.net header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=YVmXtfWX X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.107 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.107 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3yLkJuh1UUwY for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2023 18:06:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp3.osuosl.org C4A0160675 Received: from mail.wpsoftware.net (unknown [66.183.0.205]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A0160675 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2023 18:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from camus (camus-andrew.lan [192.168.0.190]) by mail.wpsoftware.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CFD80400D7; Sun, 5 Feb 2023 18:06:19 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.wpsoftware.net; s=default; t=1675620379; bh=rj+cE0J1MSSfrQ0KZHDtw+cezXl/MT1RvUE9SS77yDQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=YVmXtfWXPQiUxH2+sa6+PKHcXUK3TcPhyWThAXOX0T51rtTHt8gzZKMhdZmOqT426 Tqk2LAQxYthEQV+oJ3fJkaguGdscm7H1oco5r/R7eVx+nnTvensgrOsknl0EUifP8p YzxuZbzZFcl8wFdvkrean1CHtlH4V6pFPMwj5ff7MNDKzqsoT+G4vyn8I46Y/9p+41 IAEeXjwBB2jjR+XSZCpBqliF1/4LI6vGp1E0B/3MbAE1qfFSUC9b6x2fUCIaU0m12b IM6qcigzlub2oK9vcZPqFH34HcDlNV+JAfHvkv7Jxi/d51KAI8p2Vl6gX7QzoLrWu7 6BERQzY81Qtag== Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2023 18:06:18 +0000 From: Andrew Poelstra To: Russell O'Connor , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Message-ID: References: <57f780b1-f262-9394-036c-70084320e9cf@peersm.com> <3d00aacb-585d-f875-784d-34352860d725@peersm.com> <230265ee-c3f8-dff3-9192-f0c8dc4d913c@peersm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iMtDq17lM5tTUf9h" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Debate: 64 bytes in OP_RETURN VS taproot OP_FALSE OP_IF OP_PUSH X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2023 18:06:22 -0000 --iMtDq17lM5tTUf9h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 04, 2023 at 07:11:35PM -0500, Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev = wrote: > Since bytes in the witness are cheaper than bytes in the script pubkey, > there is a crossover point in data size where it will simply be cheaper to > use witness data. Where that crossover point is depends on the finer > details of the overhead of the two methods, but you could make some > reasonable assumptions. Such a calculation could form the basis of a > reasonable OP_RETURN proposal. I don't know if it would be persuasive, b= ut > it would at least be coherent. > I agree with Peter that, given that users have found ways to store arbitrary amounts of data on-chain if they really want, we might as well just make OP_RETURN a free-for-all. --=20 Andrew Poelstra Director of Research, Blockstream Email: apoelstra at wpsoftware.net Web: https://www.wpsoftware.net/andrew The sun is always shining in space -Justin Lewis-Webster --iMtDq17lM5tTUf9h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEkPnKPD7Je+ki35VexYjWPOQbl8EFAmPf8BkACgkQxYjWPOQb l8Hy9gf/cEGBWSbA+s1p6uUvZSWFt+tQXKb2UCHK7EQuY+9uomZUNkdH/+ldS/oM 0vpNQ+1roZDeT3b4vNSpZsKgmcdC6ezVLyLAqs0MqHAgeWlMpezv9fJ4/PJ0rweZ yCm5BbZ8lBG8Gz+HBOCDQEG0UHhwrDOJwoFZexe9cPmKmHfO4BnDr4nN1zJo3X8L G+f1p+jjqh3Yhx/9wSne2RC+6DRLNEg04qxICXwlq6l3hiHTMjWd+DjG3ishh3aZ EKe4a6+pqNdVV88EWj8A+Hua/elyrYW6LSWdliWiCHRNohJnOMcQjP/JvGIyUkq6 RM6V5H97so/MHqXRzU4u5ch9mMYtTg== =a/lb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iMtDq17lM5tTUf9h--