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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 09:16:55PM -0400, Undiscussed Horrific Abuse, One V= ictim of Many via bitcoin-dev wrote: > I worry that this form of "rfc timestamping" misleads its users into > believing the timestamps of their documents are preserved. These kinds > of user interaction issues can be very dangerous. >=20 > I would recommend uploading .ots files to chains with cheap storage, > such as arweave or bitcoin sv. According to Coingeek, Bitcoin SV's transaction fees are currently 0.1sats/byte. With BSV's price at $60, that works out to $644/GB. Meanwhile, Amazon Glacier Deep Archive costs $0.012/GB/year. Assuming a 25 year data lifetime, Bitcoin SV is still 2000x more expensive = than Amazon. And with the number of BSV nodes quickly dwindling, I'd be inclined= to trust Amazon more for long term storage. --=20 https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org --M1nECF8IodHDip7S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEFcyURjhyM68BBPYTJIFAPaXwkfsFAmKvAswACgkQJIFAPaXw kfuCYAf/YHEIi+iVNw6nXil/HG3e/HJVXL+Jv6tMAmQ90Z9sv76xxSPFrpItZjv2 6KFL3r9bfJX6S1ehRGNevsOrYfQVSuiH6KUD2aNcqsiODAV1Ih0vGimLeO7LdEQz dZuJ6G0EAljF9O281InT2Xfs4uH27v4LUXce1TfSUM0cMvy8cSaXFNSW48gD6LS+ TOsxABjpzPZ/itxYKJQhaD1GeIilq99vzkYLaWLS0WTWYOcQtbalayiIlpyss6Mz pVIEFh95eaRioB2wTTDHELdrqkQ4DnYp9tUw5NZ5chyxGKTV7prROoYdtl7jeYeC gu8MH7OuSfm6YODvMCs+SYNtEj7JmA== =qoKr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M1nECF8IodHDip7S--