From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
To: Russell O'Connor <roconnor@blockstream.com>,
Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Security problems with relying on transaction fees for security
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 20:37:11 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YszCN9cnDt0kG3++@petertodd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMZUoKmsCjpcU323_Nbw2UBkcqTmBc9+yd9i=QBZvDX-gdH_hw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 08:21:40PM -0400, Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> Oops, you are right. We need the bribe to be the output of the coinbase,
> but due to the maturity rule, it isn't really a bribe.
>
> Too bad coinbases cannot take other coinbase outputs as inputs to bypass
> the maturity rule.
>
> I guess that means the bribe has to be by leaving transactions in the
> mempool.
...and that's hardly a bribe. That's just being unable to mine competitively
because your operation is too small.
Anyway, I think all this is a good example of how mining being dependent on
fee-income makes mining much more complex, and harder to do as a small player.
Not good.
> Also your point about centralization pressure is well taken.
Thanks
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-12 0:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-11 18:12 [bitcoin-dev] Security problems with relying on transaction fees for security Bram Cohen
2022-07-11 18:38 ` micaroni
2022-07-11 18:43 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-07-11 19:45 ` vjudeu
2022-07-11 20:35 ` Russell O'Connor
2022-07-11 20:52 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-07-11 21:36 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-11 21:56 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-12 0:21 ` Russell O'Connor
2022-07-12 0:37 ` Peter Todd [this message]
2022-07-14 0:54 ` Anthony Towns
2022-07-11 21:18 ` Pox
2022-07-11 21:53 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-12 2:47 ` Bram Cohen
2022-07-11 22:19 ` James MacWhyte
2022-07-11 22:26 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-12 0:01 ` James MacWhyte
2022-07-12 0:31 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-13 0:38 ` Tom Harding
2022-07-13 12:18 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-07-11 23:29 ` Anthony Towns
2022-07-12 3:56 Peter
2022-07-12 11:57 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-07-12 15:08 ` Peter
2022-07-12 17:46 ` Ryan Grant
[not found] <mailman.82083.1657699581.8511.bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
2022-07-13 9:43 ` John Tromp
2022-07-13 11:56 ` John Tromp
2022-07-13 12:11 ` Gino Pinuto
2022-07-13 13:29 ` Manuel Costa
2022-07-14 9:33 ` vjudeu
2022-07-14 9:57 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-07-14 11:42 ` Gino Pinuto
2022-07-14 16:01 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-07-14 16:27 ` Manuel Costa
2022-07-15 6:03 ` vjudeu
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