From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org (smtp2.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::133]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FDEC002A for ; Tue, 9 May 2023 00:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D97840B9D for ; Tue, 9 May 2023 00:10:54 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp2.osuosl.org 1D97840B9D Authentication-Results: smtp2.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key, unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=fm3 header.b=cM87bYvu X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9-tl6ZMm-ysi for ; Tue, 9 May 2023 00:10:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 00:07:57 by SQLgrey-1.8.0 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp2.osuosl.org 2A0B34017B Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A0B34017B for ; Tue, 9 May 2023 00:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4685C0185; Mon, 8 May 2023 20:02:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 08 May 2023 20:02:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t=1683590575; x=1683676975; bh=co/PpURYUYGFB XMadyeuClJ3a5ss+PdCY4GWkP289TU=; b=cM87bYvuIwxCZAnnVs2/TSJ5xALlN ASCxvBD1C00YJB/D80ELvwzPGoNJaCH14nbStnP41lDjBcD5EeDZgHiViUIowdpz gDOQmZ6qZ1WPxn55awnr+sJMalGwJwG3DAK55zBX7lPLb7GEe5/6AborAGP51w8Z YSGlKGhGQBF7NBLBEY2g2Ev8jk0t8VMYm447di+ucy57ZFjJFDSYlIWKgQvgqOml G5P7ragl9q+YQVWNqJHR+FZ6YlDDMXXqy8vyu7F5HYZkESFga5ACtw3/fPT5FLJX yN2awjQcCIz1LXEI1tmJexTYvQ2JvxlmLU2/oWWEI/CfwTayVCbnIX6iw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrfeefledgvdekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvfevuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvdenucfhrhhomheprfgvthgv rhcuvfhougguuceophgvthgvsehpvghtvghrthhouggurdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtth gvrhhnpeelvdellefftddukeduffejgfefjeeuheeileeftdfgteduteeggeevueethfej tdenucffohhmrghinhepphgvthgvrhhtohguugdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiii gvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehpvghtvgesphgvthgvrhhtohguugdr ohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i525146e8:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 8 May 2023 20:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D061C5F844; Tue, 9 May 2023 00:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 9 May 2023 00:02:51 +0000 From: Peter Todd To: Luke Dashjr , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Message-ID: References: <0aea4ec5-7d6a-f358-3c20-854001588031@dashjr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sqNp03fayY6nHCU3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0aea4ec5-7d6a-f358-3c20-854001588031@dashjr.org> Cc: Ali Sherief Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Mempool spam] Should we as developers reject non-standard Taproot transactions from full nodes? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 May 2023 00:10:54 -0000 --sqNp03fayY6nHCU3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 06:37:34PM -0400, Luke Dashjr via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Action should have been taken months ago. Spam filtration has been a > standard part of Bitcoin Core since day 1. It's a mistake that the existi= ng > filters weren't extended to Taproot transactions. We can address that, or > try a more narrow approach like OP_RETURN (ie, what "Ordisrespector" does= ). > Since this is a bugfix, it doesn't really even need to wait for a major > release. Miners are making millions of dollars from these inscription transactions. Miners can and do run their own nodes and interconnect to each other. Many people like myself will continue to run nodes that do not attempt to block inscriptions. And of course, the current flood of BRC-20 transactions embed very little data in the chain per transaction and could easily be adapted to use OP_RETURN or any number of other data embedding schemes; if they were modified to embed no data at all they wouldn't be much smaller, and I'm sure you'd still be complaining that they were spam. --=20 https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org --sqNp03fayY6nHCU3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE0RcYcKRzsEwFZ3N5Lly11TVRLzcFAmRZjaoACgkQLly11TVR LzfjaBAAjkh0PyYXysSEGY48U9fd3yJ/acACshTV2zf4NfmAMuf9SQUaK7Jel+Tr +DtxQjxVfcno1lM6X9+0rNk8L6u8pjoB1be8JyYs71vFkAGC9A3S442f3q7y1jhx oTOWLqjTM2k2xDaBKj7okZHXhoJGG3rnEmkqRuysSsmX4aeqcLQzWCsHJQy1jPfg GYIByDXthf3K6g2eXUNMqYotHfgALQaoKffHDbOgsiC5P/jy69iCJLtWZ2KyW5GY sCLIYJcz+LnoNqnyUvuIcuNXngwq+Z49MD/meqQGZ1jOQakUEk/FRV+WRIHxb835 iz6O91KmvJQXlcHoUfGFMV3sFVXx3eRc1gSfLhAR3cMmFKYSeCe1bq4tcnbGj5Ms yVmIGTEkfJT06/ur+7wbS1B5inFgYnez/4BOyAIPO0gY/2VTRe4y0ZBjLS2ZAxj2 lfM4b/5BSys4otUF7JdXe8u9f6Il/M8rG8RxNn/axXwEAQkPR4BZE13piL4W8tpE LhofSSCrHUc7leo9n3o0h8oafXecW3RGEw59gpICWBu3YrUYvst9T20m3suB2hTz 9TIxyT6zv+YmWB5+he3J3jGqsE1XH6QxuL9ClMyveUd1ls0xPyqDDTHyWrRQrrSB A04P9haRmC9DbigkIvY/c1E7dApCY0Mu6wm4Jf6DUcoxFwFneYk= =RHbo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sqNp03fayY6nHCU3--