From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org (smtp2.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::133]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DDEC0032 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 13:45:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5BD416E6 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 13:45:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp2.osuosl.org 1B5BD416E6 Authentication-Results: smtp2.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mail.wpsoftware.net header.i=@mail.wpsoftware.net header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=D4dyU23M X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.107 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.107 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t8Qlxdv54pIb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 13:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.wpsoftware.net (unknown [66.183.0.205]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2DE400CB for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 13:45:46 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp2.osuosl.org 3A2DE400CB Received: from camus (camus-andrew.lan [192.168.0.190]) by mail.wpsoftware.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D5E2E40147; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 13:45:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.wpsoftware.net; s=default; t=1698068745; bh=O8mu9h5djBpQUQDkhzCCUSYFqPhe2ghYjrU85uN1BZs=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=D4dyU23MGKTR1xpDh0WclraGR8d7RpwqGS5YGEgZRpD5/p+yDD55D5RhSlgYp2so/ yoIsYOMtaVPnb5C4bXv7J+1pdNUo9D8Nz4V1R7pADPz1qkGgU0vzGaQav87/yaFIW0 P5xFsXIXiJMBtDV8xf6Ex/WWmZtnQLh/uNoILpdDrHDf70DrFTht/SMdNIg4Dh1459 vWvpVopb0ZH/D6D8hvy1Ad7iU5qKkL/y8+AiRBey1Y2hrRt0gY1Lyxn+Edq/JjkSkF ALnZWnS09z5MkeLUTU8Wxwe0FxDQ/haH+LBtL9P26X1XiJLYh2gm0d6YWqBjZqMMfd pFl08aOUfPVMw== Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 13:45:44 +0000 From: Andrew Poelstra To: Casey Rodarmor , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jJTXAGamV7RWZ6Fl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Ordinals BIP PR X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 13:45:47 -0000 --jJTXAGamV7RWZ6Fl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:38:01PM -0700, Casey Rodarmor via bitcoin-dev wr= ote: > > >=20 > There has been much misunderstanding of the nature of the BIP process. > BIPS, in particular informational BIPs, are a form of technical > documentation, and their acceptance does not indicate that they will be > included in any implementation, including Bitcoin Core, nor that they they > have consensus among the community. >=20 > Preexisting BIPs include hard-fork block size increases, hard-fork > proof-of-work changes, colored coin voting protocols, rejected soft fork > proposals, encouragement of address reuse, and drivechain. > > > I agree and I think it sets a bad precedent to be evaluating BIPs based on the merits of their implementation (vs their specification) or their consequences for the network. Actual consensus is much bigger than the BIPs repo, so this accomplishes little beyond making the BIPs repo itself hard to interact with. In the worst case it may cause people to interpret BIP numbers as indicating that proposals are "blessed" by some particular influential set of people, which can only cause problems. --=20 Andrew Poelstra Director of Research, Blockstream Email: apoelstra at wpsoftware.net Web: https://www.wpsoftware.net/andrew The sun is always shining in space -Justin Lewis-Webster --jJTXAGamV7RWZ6Fl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEkPnKPD7Je+ki35VexYjWPOQbl8EFAmU2eQgACgkQxYjWPOQb l8EmtQf/YVD753tsk/rtIJ9ycgWgobtYoPVMiPScCwTWSOgFKWVOfQMEp5vVu2WH ky6sYV0AoIPGpiIPPMjfCH6C0+Gm5WLPK/DmQPDMJFvInqwwzlhVjG/yyIlLffKB SLrhidCUOwRpem886neYNV4HnxHxFAtAlLML4yZpttSLAYLkNDLa2WN2qCL1uGTI tuytruFNjA0Da030hhpBwTjbd0Tyjp6n5nsdcEdKfZWy057fTkXJGVPfggKfnuEm D+hi1vpNkHdVH7/baCdisPmN4wzwzZyCbYp3/0ov8JFtsTm8kEFX0U6XhnQ6TG4V ZDsioQF31CyoKkX8y2KhICNBj/RZrg== =7oeG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jJTXAGamV7RWZ6Fl--