From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp4.osuosl.org (smtp4.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::137]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C88BC0032 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA17740853 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:00:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp4.osuosl.org AA17740853 Authentication-Results: smtp4.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key, unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=fm3 header.b=SyZsLow+ X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp4.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp4.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZmG_7ocY7Aom for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.20]) by smtp4.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA3C3405AE for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:00:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp4.osuosl.org DA3C3405AE Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F70732009E7; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 17:59:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 07 Nov 2023 17:59:56 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t=1699397996; x=1699484396; bh=GqO1aUzqhFgOE dPjRLH+tb7Pc0o2hyqPj7LmJ2QXHEw=; b=SyZsLow+nKArJ3zKZeZN7sa+Kmwlx jnbTaWR3z8QESWVDefIGiD1eMBC1xN+esW3ke3DEWLFlwDvl6SlfO84cW87GOTRo x7Tqixam0SIBpzoupxM4nDWMMHjdytvZ9o0r0d5FB8EVPxwMv/FBZiaHqR5JAul6 h4Rr6T7P7WRPqZB1s3s8tOuzLKmmVozvU7/+xyXuDSXw7SZ3PVJcqsGwGFZGr4SE daR23mXKYKFTCoFEoqd0WTVGtE6xBGH9aRraVW1KBAFr0mUacJ1aRqx2xHoJC9hA QHrNBVV4Sc/4xl9hnV69x2w3wMIIkN41w1ygGZ1aFL1GDRPQ9AIKqclBA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvkedruddukedgtdehucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvfevuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvdenucfhrhhomheprfgvthgv rhcuvfhougguuceophgvthgvsehpvghtvghrthhouggurdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtth gvrhhnpedttdegtdffteeukeffhfffkeekiefhteduvdetjeeujeffgeevgefhudetjefh veenucffohhmrghinhepghhithhhuhgsrdgtohhmpdhpvghtvghrthhouggurdhorhhgne cuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepphgvthgv sehpvghtvghrthhouggurdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i525146e8:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 17:59:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9319B5F81E; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 22:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2023 22:59:54 +0000 From: Peter Todd To: Christopher Allen , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Message-ID: References: <2099470b-cca4-4fbe-99c3-ee2d2ed20157@achow101.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MgikiY4CCzcRCIeN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Future of the bitcoin-dev mailing list X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2023 23:00:05 -0000 --MgikiY4CCzcRCIeN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 11:41:59AM -0800, Christopher Allen via bitcoin-dev= wrote: > As Bitcoin-Core already uses GitHub, another possibility is to use the new > GitHub discussions feature. We increasingly have been using this at > Blockchain Commons as everyone is using already using GitHub. We have also > created some GitHub actions to backup discussions so that GitHub will not > be a central point of failure -should be possible to create a static page > archive using GitHub pages (but have not had budget for that). >=20 > For instance, here is the GitHub discussion area for wallet developers > working together on Bitcoin wallet interoperability specifications: > https://github.com/BlockchainCommons/Gordian-Developer-Community Strong NACK. bitcoin-dev should be independent of Bitcoin Core. Also, a very useful thing that a mailing list does that GitHub does not is cryptographic signatures, both obvious like PGP, and less obvious like DKIM= =2E We should not be moving even more discussion to mediums where authors aren't properly signing their messages. The user experience of GitHub and similar web forums is poor too. It's much nicer to be able to reply to messages offline, asyncronously, regardless of whether or not you happen to have a good internet connection at the time. --=20 https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org --MgikiY4CCzcRCIeN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE0RcYcKRzsEwFZ3N5Lly11TVRLzcFAmVKwWgACgkQLly11TVR LzdLJw/7B1gXXXcR1NtR5e1Z3+d1X8O6NL+fu1HpigXCr3NMqhZrMu/4FVmi6STD AlywrkxmglWbCPRO0Rl6FGwHFNQ3iQdGwB8HKHGcmBhTagumwQfc3mlSlIBZ5DC4 QF8XLUEkPr/BFqMP6lyY05I40pSmpDwddiWdEkpqN/GRDDfhjIMWmgYDfP9LygEh drnL59r4o1NzqXF6ik4Ri8BgKyifWr7SCd7zU7mdExzZ7N66XKKXGvOJ3IwfpVDp 5x9T2n3yoxacJBUBdxai01GP9tM67xZhM+v7nhJenFBpqWYcIROPxOE1bo4tQJhP DUXq+SmJzvYGwbW8Hv5blzfmJ/1SBfVLCBGAw26G/b5DYJhwRsmKZtFvAlcSGFvn gQFWIizym4qx2cth0IEN4mfT4NuCc9jRm6u4CnehTOuuSY8/QLVSGnrvJ5dMhGmS MV+YGoL9A9Ue+QGrAx7l+rdJ4c9ir/737jmGTtzFCZebdw6xG1Y+mctGkodU6O+X 6X5eQaRBbSIoBaxpZZfsnuMGVeOZo29WR2QZ0W0AQjCBkLaTMduhf8Ijl8ujc1JA 6n/vhkNlkJvZwvO7vr4qRenSrKRFbdH4uI3t1U1LJVMGsoCOvRtgVvXIIp4ZnXXC Ne/CeXQGStF6nqvIa++F01alzn3UCU9DvmzgGOFF1MvFJhpfwF8= =xE4U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MgikiY4CCzcRCIeN--