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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
To: Ademan <ademan555@gmail.com>,
	Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Future of the bitcoin-dev mailing list
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:07:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZUrDGzVHuciQPfLB@petertodd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKwYL5ERT0zH=kcpPwqWe2Q2Gtn+Lj5nQF14yzAZ2nhn8AdD6A@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 11:03:30AM -0600, Ademan via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> Hi Bryan,
> 
> I don't really want my first (and last?) devlist message to be a fairly
> off-the-cuff post on this topic, but here we go anyway.
> 
> At the risk of sounding like a nostr evangelist (I promise I'm not), I want
> to suggest nostr as a potential replacement to the mailing list. A decent
> chunk of software would need to be written, but none of the alternatives
> seem particularly attractive to me. I particularly dislike the idea of
> locking into a single siloed forum service like the bitcointalk forums. I
> realize I may be in the minority of course.

Strong NACK on nostr. It's a badly designed, centralized, protocol that needs a
significant redesign to be usable. While off topic for this mailing list, some
of its many issues include:

* Reliance on single-key, cryptography that often results in people having
  their keys compromised. This is a serious problem in the context of
  bitcoin-dev, where faked messages published could easily have market-moving
  results.

* Inability to mirror relays: since nostr deliberately ignores the lessons of
  blockchains, there is no way to be sure that you have a complete set of
  messages from a given person, for a given topic, etc.

* Highly centralized design: since mirroring relays isn't reliable, in reality
  nostr operates in a highly centralized fashion, dependent on a tiny number of
  relays that can't be easily replaced if taken down.

-- 
https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-07 23:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-07 15:37 [bitcoin-dev] Future of the bitcoin-dev mailing list Bryan Bishop
2023-11-07 16:12 ` Andrew Chow
2023-11-08  9:05   ` email
2023-11-07 17:03 ` Ademan
2023-11-07 18:14   ` Andrew Chow
2023-11-07 19:41     ` Christopher Allen
2023-11-07 22:24       ` Ryan Breen
2023-11-07 22:59       ` Peter Todd
2023-11-07 20:15     ` Ademan
2023-11-09  4:03     ` William Casarin
2023-11-07 23:07   ` Peter Todd [this message]
2023-11-07 17:48 ` Andreas Schildbach
2023-11-07 20:07 ` David A. Harding
2023-11-07 21:03   ` Keagan McClelland
2023-11-07 20:57 ` Tao Effect
2023-11-07 22:10 ` ponymontana
2023-11-07 23:08 ` Peter Todd
2023-11-08 14:29   ` Emil Pfeffer
2023-11-08  3:56 ` Anthony Towns
2023-11-13  2:58 ` Antoine Riard
2023-11-13 15:05 ` Overthefalls
2023-11-13 18:51   ` alicexbt
2023-11-14 15:32     ` Overthefalls
2023-11-11 10:54 vjudeu
2024-01-04 13:50 ` Brad Morrison
     [not found] <mailman.15.1699963203.5599.bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
2023-11-14 12:32 ` Ali Sherief

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