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[64.147.123.155]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y83-20020a0dd656000000b0061bcfcd84a9si465623ywd.0.2024.05.04.10.13.32 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 04 May 2024 10:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of pete@petertodd.org designates 64.147.123.155 as permitted sender) client-ip=64.147.123.155; Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailfhigh.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CADA18000CF; Sat, 4 May 2024 13:13:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 04 May 2024 13:13:31 -0400 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvledrvddvvddgudduvdcutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpeffhffvvefukfhfgggtuggjsehgtderredttddvnecuhfhrohhmpefrvght vghrucfvohguugcuoehpvghtvgesphgvthgvrhhtohguugdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrth htvghrnhepledvleelffdtudekudffjefgfeejueehieelfedtgfetudetgeegveeutefh jedtnecuffhomhgrihhnpehpvghtvghrthhouggurdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuih iivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepphgvthgvsehpvghtvghrthhouggu rdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i525146e8:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sat, 4 May 2024 13:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CC39A5F834; Sat, 4 May 2024 17:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 4 May 2024 17:13:26 +0000 From: Peter Todd To: Matthew Bagazinski Cc: Bitcoin Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] The Future of Bitcoin Testnet Message-ID: References: <7a67edd1-0182-4170-90f4-998d12431024n@googlegroups.com> <3b1a26a9-acef-496a-8465-c32879d2a833n@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+tQLSKgXtBySs8Qa" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3b1a26a9-acef-496a-8465-c32879d2a833n@googlegroups.com> X-Original-Sender: pete@petertodd.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@messagingengine.com header.s=fm3 header.b=hQ34oIpM; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pete@petertodd.org designates 64.147.123.155 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pete@petertodd.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --+tQLSKgXtBySs8Qa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 11:46:59AM -0700, Matthew Bagazinski wrote: > > > Unfortunately, the current form of Testnet is doomed to have value, just > like BTC. 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