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[103.168.172.148]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 98e67ed59e1d1-2da505e7996si164153a91.1.2024.09.03.05.58.55 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 03 Sep 2024 05:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of pete@petertodd.org designates 103.168.172.148 as permitted sender) client-ip=103.168.172.148; Received: from phl-compute-04.internal (phl-compute-04.phl.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailfout.phl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A0B138045C; Tue, 3 Sep 2024 08:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-mailfrontend-02 ([10.202.2.163]) by phl-compute-04.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 03 Sep 2024 08:58:54 -0400 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeftddrudehhedgheekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfu rfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnh htshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhepfffhvfevuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvden ucfhrhhomheprfgvthgvrhcuvfhougguuceophgvthgvsehpvghtvghrthhouggurdhorh hgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeelvdellefftddukeduffejgfefjeeuheeileeftdfg teduteeggeevueethfejtdenucffohhmrghinhepphgvthgvrhhtohguugdrohhrghenuc evlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehpvghtvges phgvthgvrhhtohguugdrohhrghdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepvddpmhhouggvpehsmhhtph houhhtpdhrtghpthhtoheprghnthhoihhnvgdrrhhirghrugesghhmrghilhdrtghomhdp rhgtphhtthhopegsihhttghoihhnuggvvhesghhoohhglhgvghhrohhuphhsrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i525146e8:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 3 Sep 2024 08:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D36A85F86C; Tue, 3 Sep 2024 12:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 12:58:52 +0000 From: Peter Todd To: Antoine Riard Cc: Bitcoin Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Demonstrating Pinning Attacks under Real-World Conditions Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gxLJQQrt1sB2a4do" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: pete@petertodd.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=OWzuPh5N; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pete@petertodd.org designates 103.168.172.148 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pete@petertodd.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --gxLJQQrt1sB2a4do Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 02:10:15PM -0700, Antoine Riard wrote: > My utmost pleasure to demonstrate some pinning attacks on nodes under > real-world conditions. Antoine Riard: until Oct 1st, you have permission to test your attacks against my Lightning node running at: 023345274dd80a01c0e80ec48928188783f9bc5281be8f5057c050492f10711a5b@alice.opentimestamps.org:9735 That also happens to be my Alice OpenTimestamps calendar, in production, so please don't do anything you expect to be CPU or RAM intensive. But if you accidentally take down the server, not the end of the world: OTS is a very redundant protocol and one calendar going down for a few hours is unlikely to do any harm. It has about $400 of outgoing capacity at the moment, and $2000 inbound. It gets hardly any donations at the moment, so if you manage to knock LND offline that's no big deal. That's not my money - it's donations to the OTS calendars that I have no right to spend - so I'll ask you to pay for any expenses incurred by it during testing, and make a $100 net donation when you're done testing to make it worthwhile for the OTS community. If you manage to lose more than that on justice transactions, I'll consider that a donation. :) -- https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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