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From: justusranvier@riseup.net
To: Kevin Greene <kgreenek@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] The Bitcoin Node Market
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 05:28:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9e2e033c786fb7f99bcf7505ad45f21@riseup.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEY8wq4SOddGUJNqkrdhhfQEn4tXehCWiifk-P=PYUdfFcXFTQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 2015-06-16 03:49, Kevin Greene wrote:
> ​Hah, fair enough, there is no such thing as the "right" way to do
> anything. But I still think punishing users who use SPV wallets is ​a
> less-than-ideal way to incentive people to run full nodes. Right now 
> SPV is
> the best way that exists for mobile phones to participate in the 
> network in
> a decentralized way. This proposal makes the user experience for mobile
> wallets a little more confusing and annoying.

Suppose a billion mobile phones wanted to run SPV wallets tomorrow. Who 
would provide the nodes they would need connect to? The decentralization 
fairy?

There's absolutely no reason that paying for connectivity would be any 
more confusing or annoying than transaction fees are.

If some full nodes in the network started offering paid connection 
slots, that would just mean that users who checked the "pay subscription 
fee" box in their wallet configuration would have an easier time 
connecting than the users who did't, just like how your transaction 
might eventually get mined without a fee but paying one makes it faster 
and more probable.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-16  5:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-14 21:23 [Bitcoin-development] comments on BIP 100 Adam Back
2015-06-14 22:23 ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-14 23:58   ` Adam Back
2015-06-15  0:53     ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-15  0:55       ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-15  4:11       ` Peter Todd
2015-06-15  4:43         ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-15  9:27     ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-15  9:39       ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-15 10:24       ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-15 10:36         ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-15 10:40           ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-15 10:50             ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-15 11:16               ` Rebroad (sourceforge)
2015-06-15 17:53                 ` Raystonn .
2015-06-15 18:14                   ` Adam Back
2015-06-15 18:57                     ` [Bitcoin-development] The Bitcoin Node Market Raystonn .
2015-06-15 19:18                       ` sickpig
2015-06-15 19:36                         ` Raystonn .
2015-06-15 20:12                           ` sickpig
2015-06-16  3:30                             ` Kevin Greene
2015-06-16  3:41                               ` Luke Dashjr
2015-06-16  3:49                                 ` Kevin Greene
2015-06-16  4:05                                   ` Kevin Greene
2015-06-16  4:12                                   ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-16  5:28                                   ` justusranvier [this message]
2015-06-16  5:30                                     ` Potter QQ
2015-06-16  7:55                                     ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-16 13:32                                       ` justusranvier
2015-06-16 17:04                                         ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-16 17:22                                         ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-16 15:52                                       ` devrandom
2015-06-15  4:43   ` [Bitcoin-development] comments on BIP 100 Peter Todd
2015-06-15  9:06     ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-15  2:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-15  2:44   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-16  4:38 [Bitcoin-development] The Bitcoin Node Market Raystonn

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