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[185.70.40.22]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i10-20020a056512340a00b00512ee654c1csi681564lfr.10.2024.02.27.14.57.59 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:57:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lists@achow101.com designates 185.70.40.22 as permitted sender) client-ip=185.70.40.22; Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 22:57:45 +0000 To: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com From: "'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List" Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Re: Adding New BIP Editors Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9288df7b-f2e9-4106-b843-c1ff8f8a62a3@dashjr.org> References: <2092f7ff-4860-47f8-ba1a-c9d97927551e@achow101.com> <9288df7b-f2e9-4106-b843-c1ff8f8a62a3@dashjr.org> Feedback-ID: 53660394:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="b1_Forb8COVwhRULFI2t60n4f57oT1qzjXpvzPmTyLQ8" X-Original-Sender: lists@achow101.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@achow101.com header.s=protonmail3 header.b=jJM1aP3o; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lists@achow101.com designates 185.70.40.22 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lists@achow101.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=achow101.com X-Original-From: Ava Chow Reply-To: Ava Chow Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --b1_Forb8COVwhRULFI2t60n4f57oT1qzjXpvzPmTyLQ8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/27/24 05:40 PM, Luke Dashjr wrote: > I do think it would be best to have non-devs contribute by triaging what = doesn't require dev > > skills. Can you clarify what the non-dev triagers would be doing? > Assigning BIP numbers itself is easy enough. The hard part is evaluating > if the new proposal meets the criteria - which definitely needs dev > skills (mainly for technical soundness). So IMO we should move forward > with more editors ASAP without waiting for a new way to coordinate the > numbering (we can deal with that later/in parallel to solving the > immediate need). While I think having BIP editors who can go through the backlog of PRs that= modify BIPs would be useful, I think the primary complaint recently has re= ally been on the assigning of numbers and subsequently getting those propos= ed BIPs merged. AJ's original email began with a discussion of open propose= d BIPs that were (presumably) waiting on numbers. So I think adding editors= who can assign numbers should be something we do sooner rather than later. Ava --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= bitcoindev/b2022288-8bd4-4a26-b074-4dcdf704ea08%40achow101.com. --b1_Forb8COVwhRULFI2t60n4f57oT1qzjXpvzPmTyLQ8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/27/24 05:40 PM, Luke Dashjr wrote:
I do think it would be best to have non-devs contribute by t= riaging what doesn't require dev 
skills.
Can you clarify what the non-dev triagers would be doing?

Assigning BIP numbers itself i=
s easy enough. The hard part is evaluating
if the new proposal meets the criteria - which definitely needs dev
skills (mainly for technical soundness). So IMO we should move forward
with more editors ASAP without waiting for a new way to coordinate the
numbering (we can deal with that later/in parallel to solving the
immediate need).
While I think having BIP editors who can go through the backlog of PRs that modify BIPs would be useful, I think the primary complaint recently has really been on the assigning of numbers and subsequently getting those proposed BIPs merged. AJ's original email began with a discussion of open proposed BIPs that were (presumably) waiting on numbers. So I think adding editors who can assign numbers should be something we do sooner rather than later.

Ava

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