From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 426FE116D for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2018 02:10:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from forward1.bravehost.com (forward1.bravehost.com [65.39.211.65]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6CC634E for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2018 02:10:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bravehost.com Received: from [10.137.3.35] (tor-exit2.signal.center [84.19.181.25]) (Authenticated sender: cannon@cannon-ciota.info) by forward1.bravehost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AF8971FF3; Mon, 5 Feb 2018 18:10:07 -0800 (PST) To: Damian Williamson , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion References: <6d24833d-f127-04ea-d180-c69409de16a5@cannon-ciota.info> <6d92d8da-052d-f997-f441-0713acd72e85@cannon-ciota.info> From: CANNON Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 02:08:24 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 04:46:42 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] NIST 8202 Blockchain Technology Overview X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2018 02:10:18 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 01/31/2018 11:16 AM, Damian Williamson wrote: > I disagree with the correctness of the following statement: > > >> Rather than implementing the SegWit changes, the developers of Bitcoin Cash decided to simply increase the blocksize. > > > I would suggest "Rather than being satisfied with the implementation of SegWit changes alone, the developers of > Bitcoin Cash decided to also increase the blocksize. > > > Regards, > > Damian Williamson You do realize that segwit includes many improvements of which are unrelated to scaling? These same improvements of which simply increasing the blocksize alone would not fix or enable. Segwit is not just a blocksize increase. Bitcoin Cash, while increasing the blocksize directly, from my understanding has yet to implement the improvements and capabilities that segwit enables. One example being, with transactions hashes being able to be calculated in advanced prior to signing (due to the signature being in different section than that used to calculate the transaction ID) it is possible to create transaction trees, enhanced smart contracts, trustless mixing protocols, micropayment networks, etc... Segwit also increases the security of signatures. There are lots of other things segregated witness enables as well. By saying "..segwit changes alone.... decided to also..." Bitcoin Cash has not implemented segwit. Bitcoin Cash only increased the blocksize. that wording above at least from the way I read it, seems to imply that Bitcoin Cash has segwit. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJaeQ3IAAoJEAYDai9lH2mwKkQP/3dgYApq1qv2lGIyZIdeN9SE D5AuXPqFQYAoMwhC0RPNQU/jUisKIyd6zm4XCIm6KPufCtXkjfH9FLhd0ThbCTcy Gk+pYYRBzSuBZdPBKg0DHu7alRETtxbdtUI0zDfERt1FFZb+HmcDcGTfwdVci3fa jBiFXq1R+myMW5xdB44dipSk5kBhcpx2zitr1bIA4rF11QbxKAmzU7iPdRpA+PXz gB9NImc1Dbz+TEA50tdq3v9Ov3x7m7F+QtBnqyLAigJh6XKa6guCfwKIGoawRGwZ v2ur7T+Qh3KGRXCBlHnxgtFte16wHagwvsVgE5EEmJR0yJUc/4XU2kCGANVNDZ/P pphqk8pruQ5rjQ8S+s6i5XG8oHVSB2fDh56NvPY7msA72j+Gk+XneV2eJbEAdjhb 9Ci7u1uPJL3pb3c/ZOwQvpIRV3tRjlh0DertWkd3Li5RZLO3uFvBTxNxrni6+9bf /cmAOwfHjoUp8BX/nvgMjpIDCoEu+Rv9IO/ok3s3mX300JbczAdGbXbsPTE5G+DI RB1kSmszwst8wOlOAsdVqk/iKRJdN9daTGGN6aE/wjkpSg8rW9BOaoI2X9t4oXCU +oe/WlgkxhxPcNyhKpLeeYVe6nFX2fjU+THyyiAq/LJ/qHU/brKpXc4NesCVHhQP BBlxiN0E4gndMGs/Lx89 =+UCK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----