From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C2AC9C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:32:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from s47.web-hosting.com (s47.web-hosting.com [199.188.200.16]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2C3229C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:37335 helo=server47.web-hosting.com) by server47.web-hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSTh4-003y90-Hf; Thu, 20 Aug 2015 13:32:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 13:32:02 -0400 From: jl2012@xbt.hk To: Peter Todd In-Reply-To: <20150819055036.GA19595@muck> References: <20150819055036.GA19595@muck> Message-ID: X-Sender: jl2012@xbt.hk User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0.5 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server47.web-hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.linuxfoundation.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - xbt.hk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server47.web-hosting.com: authenticated_id: jl2012@xbt.hk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-From-Rewrite: unmodified, already matched X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] CLTV/CSV/etc. deployment considerations due to XT/Not-BitcoinXT miners X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:32:05 -0000 Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev 於 2015-08-19 01:50 寫到: > > > 2) nVersion mask, with IsSuperMajority() > > In this option the nVersion bits set by XT/Not-Bitcoin-XT miners would > be masked away, prior to applying standard IsSuperMajority() logic: > > block.nVersion & ~0x20000007 > > This means that CLTV/CSV/etc. miners running Bitcoin Core would create > blocks with nVersion=8, 0b1000. From the perspective of the > CLTV/CSV/etc. IsSuperMajority() test, XT/Not-Bitcoin-XT miners would > be > advertising blocks that do not trigger the soft-fork. > > For the perpose of soft-fork warnings, the highest known version can > remain nVersion=8, which is triggered by both XT/Not-Bitcoin-XT blocks > as well as a future nVersion bits implementation. Equally, > XT/Not-Bitcoin-XT soft-fork warnings will be triggered, by having an > unknown bit set. > > When nVersion bits is implemented by the Bitcoin protocol, the plan of > setting the high bits to 0b001 still works. The three lowest bits will > be unusable for some time, but will be eventually recoverable as > XT/Not-Bitcoin-XT mining ceases. > > Equally, further IsSuperMajority() softforks can be accomplished with > the same masking technique. > > This option does complicate the XT-coin protocol implementation in the > future. But that's their problem, and anyway, the maintainers > (Hearn/Andresen) has strenuously argued(5) against the use of > soft-forks > and/or appear to be in favor of a more centralized mandatory update > schedule.(6) > If you are going to mask bits, would you consider to mask all bits except the 4th bit? So other fork proposals may use other bits for voting concurrently. And as I understand, the masking is applied only during the voting stage? After the softfork is fully enforced with 95% support, the nVersion will be simply >=8, without any masking?