From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WmSHX-00035z-GY for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 19 May 2014 18:27:27 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of petertodd.org designates 62.13.149.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=62.13.149.43; envelope-from=pete@petertodd.org; helo=outmail149043.authsmtp.co.uk; Received: from outmail149043.authsmtp.co.uk ([62.13.149.43]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1WmSHV-0001lX-KV for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 19 May 2014 18:27:27 +0000 Received: from mail-c235.authsmtp.com (mail-c235.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.235]) by punt17.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id s4JIREWY011986; Mon, 19 May 2014 19:27:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from [100.125.13.180] (static.kpn.net [194.151.204.54] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id s4JIRBCl013084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 May 2014 19:27:11 +0100 (BST) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <5377892C.8080402@gmail.com> <5379FF38.4050909@certimix.com> <20140519144709.GA29574@netbook.cypherspace.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 From: Peter Todd Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 20:27:08 +0200 To: Mike Hearn , Adam Back Message-ID: X-Server-Quench: 319494dd-df83-11e3-b396-002590a15da7 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aQdMdwsUFVQNAgsB AmIbWl1eUlp7WGI7 agNVcwRYY1RMXwF0 VUxWRlRXCwQmQhh7 f3xsIUVydgZGcHo+ ZEdmV3YVX0VzcU95 FhpJQTsOZnphaTUc TRJbfgVJcANIexZF O1F6ACIKLwdSbGoL NQ4vNDcwO3BTJTpY RgYVKF8UXXNDBjcg ShYeBnNpWyUA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1023:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 194.151.204.54/465 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Headers-End: 1WmSHV-0001lX-KV Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] patents... X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 18:27:27 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 19 May 2014 17:09:07 CEST, Mike Hearn wrote: >The first rule of patents is *you do not go looking for patents*. US >law is >written in a really stupid way, such that if you knowingly infringe, >damages triple. Because America uses the patent office as a revenue >source, >basically everything you can possibly imagine is covered by some >ridiculous >patent so if you go looking you will always find applicable patents on >every idea and then you end up potentially much worse off. > >Most companies (Google certainly included) have therefore banned their >staff from reading patents, thus ensuring that the whole point of them, >the >sharing of knowledge, doesn't actually function! And it's much better I >think if we follow the same policy. So *please do not ever mention that >suchandsuch is patented on this list*! When it comes to patent law, >ignorance is bliss. Patents are written in a heavily obfuscated manner >such >that actually trying to learn from them is hard work anyway. Meh. The world is much bigger than the USA. Secondly that rule makes it difficult to educate people about why patents are as bad as they are. Feel free to continue censoring your own discussion within closed corporate environments. But to say keeping patent discussion off mailing lists is appropriate or wise when the tech news is full of such discussion is silly. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: APG v1.1.1 iQFQBAEBCAA6BQJTekz8MxxQZXRlciBUb2RkIChsb3cgc2VjdXJpdHkga2V5KSA8 cGV0ZUBwZXRlcnRvZGQub3JnPgAKCRAZnIM7qOfwhX0TB/wNZoi5sWj6n3fM7O7T emVbrVpuBwOvUEJAFYGmXgb2KXGdheVRhXfcwteQybLG+M+Ra/HAqLq+1YrPmopE QeldiSc31KAkVLYXQMIfD6QO1PBlvKP7qPLqBEpCc9ocd8XLppTPQ2K8o5soV8VF z6Jt/Hh74xhkhhb/kEzsQ8YKkg+m26WY9Yggu0Qxtb0OTjL86IhEKpH9ijr08jvV TKs+PHwou5rt0dT3vqLd8ogb7xihTPx/7tciaXHCOfvxGsEgtqdTsjdHlCJ6cR9a DrZcrIQnX+s1+YbHs3P4kyBfzNHBwwVuwaf5W5pU6vFp276jhsgT/65J7PqoRmxK AkXg =dk4R -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----