From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD5ECA7A for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:04:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-ot1-f49.google.com (mail-ot1-f49.google.com [209.85.210.49]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56844893 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ot1-f49.google.com with SMTP id r21so34506830otq.6 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 08:04:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thinlink-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=WEUwQkqprFggCllukhG8rNmvA0zBPTKEeWjphDOem+0=; b=bc5529NGqrlsxBEuYfxTz8oZl14UatWTLHFFBgw6Xsr4YZh0PKfcPToSu+yYiwEn0x rELOfK05CuUU3newWFULTw+GYLAGpbEOaEUNZ1LRjQ3KHMYuiqI69AyGGB+RyTV2ctcV ji9W0Gq4RIVdNhtzvgxGgXtp/vthkm6HmJCtKm7C3d331AIK7LOSUa+D0jWAvQnGRp5L Wo20kUzKzRSRTU7PN7f9mR56yLNzbSeqHQ4Zk+3M4XRMifm53ZUiEcgTN8M2PT8hJ/em DLpIz7XZeMwP58/UYwjmRuaXcl6AF4ZLaZ6d8TBzv73gGdYjiI/hvYCXW/d9tc+Muo1I Yqhw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=WEUwQkqprFggCllukhG8rNmvA0zBPTKEeWjphDOem+0=; b=jEXiVRYcEJo4M0oCC8Wo4fDqNHjWKAyX+Cq+Nx75g/tnA/KxGH0Zg0mqEj57cDnpmr S+7TKFapQwl0qhlQCAMZqXuhNZWSgeA+3IQaN4VDy3zaMUtSYz2zOJ5H4VeBxC1lUqld ahj4bP0OO4CveCF/O0X1a7jvwhcLUcz/jh91aiZAw4TZ7T5wQSLV//wZ6aYC4/4u71Zj 0GdCuHnx9n95HuFA51dFgtSn/pjDzwC/YipABzQXXLBsFdiGZPtEXsPER5JGLahxUG/+ BSNWy6BnN66J+KPimvNv3nEUQCcHxBPzNe1LPo5cpJR5Xpq21ZJVD9h7MJ2p6BKN/Wd2 +HMg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVMMJrb5gf8hrGSeN0MOiFEHYDTMgd+c3k8v0sxwO1SptYQdkwQ s5akqJap6YqRQ7eTZdbfeIyzdENXFRw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxjwhUKAc9lzI2cSzeHM8Hds6RbIjq0jOK9w2JyG7g3CgayxWHc8KIaXIXHYfca2rbIcVsauQ== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:4703:: with SMTP id a3mr24520326otf.183.1563807859047; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 08:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.230] (99-8-65-117.lightspeed.davlca.sbcglobal.net. [99.8.65.117]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l24sm12810409oil.42.2019.07.22.08.04.17 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Jul 2019 08:04:18 -0700 (PDT) To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org References: <59fad2b6-9b15-ffec-116e-91d27ce29f80@mattcorallo.com> From: Tom Harding Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 08:04:16 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59fad2b6-9b15-ffec-116e-91d27ce29f80@mattcorallo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:05:51 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core to disable Bloom-based Filtering by default X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:04:28 -0000 On 7/20/19 10:46 AM, Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev wrote: > (less trustful and privacy-violating) alternative > over the coming years. The same paper that established the 'privacy-violating' conventional wisdom presented mitigations which have seen little exploration. https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/763.pdf Meanwhile we have custodial LN, the L-BTC altcoin and, today, a massive push into infrastructure for fully custodial accounts.