Re: [bitcoin-dev] Future of the bitcoin-dev mailing list

[Overthefalls <overthefalls@opengroupware.ch>]

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Hi floppy disk guy, thanks for prompting me to look closer at Nostr,
it's very interesting. 

I hope that whatever solution is chosen doesn't involve handing power
over to a centralized entity that wants collect as much information on
every living person as possible, and lock everyone and everything into
using it's services forever.

On Mon, 2023-11-13 at 18:51 +0000, alicexbt wrote:
> Hi Overthefalls,
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> +1
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> Using google for bitcoin mailing list is not good. It feels
> embarrassing that some developers that built and maintained the only
> decentralized network used to settle uncensored payments and some of
> them even working on nostr, can't build their own mailing list which
> is better than present mailing list. I have some ideas but it seems
> the influential developers have already decided and wont accept
> anything.
> 
> Nostr can be used to build a mailing list which also allows anyone to
> send emails apart from publishing events from different clients. We
> just need a new NIP so that nostr relays understand its a different
> event. There can be multiple front end with different levels of
> moderation to hide some emails and ultimately one will be used the
> most. It can use multiple relays and relays share some information in
> NIP 11 which can include an email address.
> 
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> /dev/fd0
> floppy disk guy
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>         On Monday, November 13th, 2023 at 8:35 PM, Overthefalls via
> bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
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> >             On Tue, 2023-11-07 at 09:37 -0600, Bryan Bishop via
> > bitcoin-dev wrote:
> > > Google Groups is another interesting option, 
> > 
> > I don't think I'm the only person on this list that is strongly
> > opposed to using google for anything. They are too big and they
> > have their hand in everything, and their eyes (and analytics) on
> > everything.
> > I remember when there were virtually no gmail email addresses that
> > posted to this list. Suddenly in 2020 or 2021, we had an influx of
> > gmail subscribers and posters. That didn't escape me then and it is
> > not lost on me now. 
> > Email is great for public discussion for many reasons. The fact
> > that everyone gets a copy of the data, there is no single central
> > authority that can edit emails once they have been sent out. Anyone
> > can archive email messages, they can generally store or publish the
> > data anywhere they like. That is not the case with web forum
> > content. 
> > I like the lightning anti-spam fee idea. That would encourage me to
> > finally adopt lightning, and it would, I'm sure, produce some
> > interesting results for the list. 
> > I don't think email should be out of the question. Does anyone
> > besides kanzure@gmail.com think that sticking with email is out of
> > the question?
> > Let's do what's necessary to stick with email. 
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