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Sun, 23 Dec 2018 10:46:13 -0800 (PST) To: Aymeric Vitte , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion References: <68330522-7e7c-c3b4-99a9-1c68ddb56f23@gmail.com> From: Pavol Rusnak Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=stick@satoshilabs.com; keydata= mQINBE9XRhABEADSxFWkPPaa0sLaLq5Po1SdLNNMt3uAUDpBOtEVI3yCvp4ANWg6jUMWvIZ8 g26+g+o3IFF9Lcahv9vTcW/jX1OB4U0M+Ff25xVVGyUbDaTFdYqs0AOB/zYK5QobjcU2b2Rq qdr8tVmZHqIkfsL6YUxUBhKlYv1iZUeSf/W8jsD9HvxszECGIfnZpaI8zhah0FvUNnFOSHOz v9gU0X/MzdtBe93CV7+G6yLqfxYfwGiHz+IWQnquO1Zku2stlRsjjxQSysOhjRtlyXorK/iP t8cH+6eKQkmimhnlXWvNo/9iAsGFujG1guNS0V0Pa4gWAbITLJOSoVsHb1mqT2nSNb5obzEJ paClfnRimlw5xqfEdPOsjfQCuz8uSZLC3Gog0JNI9UUbAO4IsseVQOp6gB1zm09AJtdeYxwZ 0NZqmdr9RL1VRSjMajdiSEZI2BMexe07He6bZ1IKGfvdAZQ5j64ePW/IZhHoAbNQm+Q8UiTJ rCaHRvHssCF52WWpGNv5sfyMKrt//VffRovyXNCbXGSR07WOQoul5pZ3gzeZ5a1HfjjzUelX cIGswip0MBaDiCtFikEZNoPQtBTPqFWaeFz8/SV3KwbIojKkkQWQU/AkdS6mp4Caew61PNV+ Or8DE1ipNn9sotBVIxjGhDm6DEEHrjMFbjbS2mmE9shI/ccRMQARAQABtCVQYXZvbCBSdXNu w6FrIDxzdGlja0BzYXRvc2hpbGFicy5jb20+iQJWBBMBAgBAAhsDBwsJCAcDAgEGFQgCCQoL BBYCAwECHgECF4AFCQ7vRhkWIQSG5nkvwnv9R4hgwRCR87M5uaAqPQUCW887lQAKCRCR87M5 uaAqPenBEACiDYxMoa4HHq+GuTxQk89ilVekeoua9puzDTWcm4aJlPdn3XUjSuTUZwnesVYt STHHKpaSAC/2t5UdgR2M3+0RIX2U9l6r/DYVjN4puXr6AlwtlLVnYz9RHkAZmruhdoNVB9Ly GcQZHq9yzuth3jRySSsbH+jt/QS1dBWDMdAuDFUXziyDNDxnPPqwgRmVFRkRD6LZNOCC/nY2 5b3JksWc5OHAHI/JZc0A0HEil5LuKFB3YNDgZgAGFUv6o9lllBiRUJSuZ6Eut79K3xPRpBX7 sSiguRzU9Z+M/FgmCXYYpQX34My61LAtL1jYBSIvdWvpDqBSVhOSfnq8dolTedTomDSgtjNz VF2PsnyWMSgVHkuYkt8dCRxHaL8zLHarEeZ5aFE7yKpZi4VGv/yfUtGYeGgcjlqI48Gcz3Zk vu1kC+kicpWn8S6LsE079opL4pnNxGCFy7+ph1xvTVD+EUUKUTfFHt5AMU7ocYpu0Xbodd6y HmMzK2tIWhn8aZqWKI9mz1z7S8jrVOaWaMopJywIUHEBEVPmUPPn40JRrtVaKu9D0m7Nv6aP MFFk+ts94oHfjmjeicPPeipH3zL9bUeF15OIZ8c827NoGZmZ2XeFUpWCmWI+UPcg5GfUZTtk 1H0qkU+6JeS37BTUfvqGJ20Zf4DBYZlXjc/MdEXMf+SDT7kCDQRPV0YQARAAmUUilKwRws/n 07RttcwYBq8Iu4zEQZmT74IuOFxEUHwt8e29KtjeNRrcqgtq1OkNgOCbIkfEPoSGqP0/k+3/ vAGqlCaJxnlBLhhFJA9pwb/anvJkhiqiovnz9AuKIcsmh4PqygO3WSFzezN2rqE5Yyl+mIwq E5Dh35iS62oXAHZdRmeGyn0w3qofQnYDlBCAdg6qG+Gh+Q3SschRDlSlYs8yZnMspuOTezdL OW7Ogcz2nSxlcELZRN355OvMK06IEDitt8W3nZGjM+Td7eV1X3lyfHqMahIqhabIut3Fdqzo no/ftlXNmZV072ytGbRLDb4T7nF60GX85/hgfWEaW8a+ilETUqGN7m3eEUTnpg3+SIonaqnX o4Pj1/29W/nI+9NV5RYP8dugyQUzZhuS6kK4k6F74iKHm5CrMiKfGkQtBWIo9cobJTonrIg0 DovhvTQyc4jbaxxrDf9JDBph5xjIKddO3StKZPYcr5MwD4e2zGIOk4SureaX8TeqXcOgYdQL HxU37jMSAogGSQ4XTrtnNa4lZz62+KF/1XEHQpIOvA3DZeOIF+8Y8GqBLIr7czDhe1gfhvCf bMJ9RY2n5xyU7GpTBWWpX6xi7sLssBX0HmOPXMZVGvAs7e53Cv7bDYnRt8n5DTneYw9ez0Fz nBQthl3HBVD4KaLgkISr1BcAEQEAAYkCPAQYAQIAJgIbDBYhBIbmeS/Ce/1HiGDBEJHzszm5 oCo9BQJahCVGBQkO70Y2AAoJEJHzszm5oCo9XTAP/jO1ZzEuVr8mH/GDurBCxFf6dRqBjJjP i1rVVk5vZs8jibkdHBrz98On7n3t0kJJaIX6EXfkC8WjV5oV+nmGqqyQh86GB+j0Z6wFHtS3 Y9mPVA8LNsGc5H7vKa5oF2BmmEyVOb6/OVIALApC69+cMOrRYItsOk3Mm5gRXFqGx2Sn2S/F c6Qt1pECf9fGKPuir+DGp2DxSsgLH0KvpCHNnIw7+RcP4eWOLXjpxE8716wFpYhRxmwJfZKr 94S3PQQUG7S7ceWq6s1oCA7ksZ9LYUc4JLaKMlp0FSJdxtTCUd4+eYaAulTNN+oc3gBuY6iP yT2qNudH020hWOlze+iD8DrMVKyXfv6Av8odsWt7j26+ukPxZStlc0z18JuitRoiyNmd7b5X ABqXYt5OFAlb2cHVpEb9t5VIAALXORhD6uYoWxjkolFq5NSFJ+mIsYdPM3XlbGE+xVlwsu/9 XpLoPedcASKrRvMl0ke5x0vmPr3SEuGNhypiIC6ztsS0W8Oeb0BgB+dju5qZsmvOqVHCdqEH Bc7eVViTcV71whjVtlWIqwbrhRNPU8NOQQmVgMXldIJeWvte2tvqSw3ACnDB8dqLqlGKKbif WY2IfBLewMQ3INwxZWpISlIGAlupMRaLVm3raNeBD1YYv8LXMo+ZDVuqrkzMRScS0HKN3Yq9 x3xD Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 19:46:12 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <68330522-7e7c-c3b4-99a9-1c68ddb56f23@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: sk-SK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:51:01 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP39 seeds X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 18:46:16 -0000 On 22/12/2018 00:58, Aymeric Vitte via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Has anybody already looked at this: given N randomly chosen words > belonging to a BIP39 2048 words dictionary, what is the probability to > get a "valid" BIP39 seed (ie with the right checksum)? 1:256 for 24 words 1:16 for 12 words This ratio is not too great and will be improved in the upcoming SLIP39 standard: https://github.com/satoshilabs/slips/blob/master/slip-0039.md -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol "stick" Rusnak CTO, SatoshiLabs