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[103.168.172.150]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d75a77b69052e-47eb02be0c4si824091cf.4.2025.04.26.04.45.48 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 26 Apr 2025 04:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of sjors@sprovoost.nl designates 103.168.172.150 as permitted sender) client-ip=103.168.172.150; Received: from phl-compute-06.internal (phl-compute-06.phl.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailfout.phl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4782138086E; Sat, 26 Apr 2025 07:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-imap-11 ([10.202.2.101]) by phl-compute-06.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 26 Apr 2025 07:45:48 -0400 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgddvheehudduucetufdoteggodetrf dotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggv pdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpih gvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhepofggfffhvffkjghfufgtgfesthejredtredt tdenucfhrhhomhepfdfujhhorhhsucfrrhhovhhoohhsthdfuceoshhjohhrshesshhprh hovhhoohhsthdrnhhlqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeejveekgfelueejuddvkeehveet kedtvefgkedtfeduudegvddvkeeuteehvedtheenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtne curfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehsjhhorhhssehsphhrohhvohhoshhtrdhnlhdp nhgspghrtghpthhtohepvddpmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhhtpdhrtghpthhtoheplhhukh gvsegurghshhhjrhdrohhrghdprhgtphhtthhopegsihhttghoihhnuggvvhesghhoohhg lhgvghhrohhuphhsrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ie5e042df:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.phl.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 49ECE2220074; Sat, 26 Apr 2025 07:45:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ThreadId: Tf7f404487a70e428 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 13:45:27 +0200 From: "Sjors Provoost" To: "Luke Dashjr" , "'Bitcoin Development Mailing List'" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <03be4934-f0ff-4b58-880d-861d63a4f970@dashjr.org> Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Relax OP_RETURN standardness restrictions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Original-Sender: sjors@sprovoost.nl X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@sprovoost.nl header.s=fm1 header.b=DjfjzmPv; dkim=pass header.i=@messagingengine.com header.s=fm3 header.b="kO8GEY/I"; spf=pass (google.com: domain of sjors@sprovoost.nl designates 103.168.172.150 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=sjors@sprovoost.nl; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=sprovoost.nl Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) > >> As for your earlier proposals (Ordisrespector, etc), they were not >> useful in general, because they rely too heavily on having >> standardness rules go against financial incentives. Only consensus >> changes can work, but so far you haven't proposed those. > > That's nonsense. They were and continue to be very effective, even with > only a small amount of adoption. Further, mining centralization and > pools denying miners options has been the biggest barrier to that > adoption. There is no significant financial impact either, that's just > FUD; miners using the fixed and improved spam filters have in fact > earned significantly more than miners using Core. I'll reply to your arguments when Ocean Pool reorgs a competitor block with inscriptions in it. - Sjors -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/f348e4bf-ccc4-48e3-9745-ac72b1b131f5%40app.fastmail.com.