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X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2021 12:30:59 -0000 For purposes of conserving energy, couldn't each mining rig have some non-gameable attribute which would be used to calculate if a block would be accepted by that rig? Don't the mining rigs have to be able to identify themselves to the network somehow, in order to claim their block reward? Could their bitcoin network ID be used as a non-gameable attribute? Essentially a green light / red light system. In order for a block to be accepted by the network, it must have all attributes of a successful block today, and it must also have come from a rig that had a green light. Perhaps hash some data from the last successful block, along with the miners non-gameable attribute, and if it's below a certain number set by algorithm, the miner gets a green light to race to produce a valid block. Nathan Alexander Arlington, TX