[Bitcoin-development] BIP 0020: URI Scheme

[Bitcoin-development] BIP 0020: URI Scheme

[Amir Taaki]

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BIP 0020 is the old URI scheme BIPisized.

ATM it is Draft status.

I do not know enough about the discussion back last year to know whether to move it to Accepted status or not. My feelings are that having a re-decision (even if it was accepted last year) is healthy since it makes no sense to have a standard before a standardisation process existed.

For now, it is Draft status until there's a general agreement.

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Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP 0020: URI Scheme

[Luke-Jr]

On Friday, January 27, 2012 5:51:04 PM Amir Taaki wrote:
> BIP 0020 is the old URI scheme BIPisized.
> 
> ATM it is Draft status.

It's been Final (even according to BIP 1 standards) since late January 2011. 
The only change recently is assigning it a BIP number for formality.

> I do not know enough about the discussion back last year to know whether to
> move it to Accepted status or not. My feelings are that having a
> re-decision (even if it was accepted last year) is healthy since it makes
> no sense to have a standard before a standardisation process existed.

Once P2SH is deployed, it will probably make good sense to revisit the URI 
Scheme for revision, and eventually move BIP 20 to Replaced/Superceded status.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP 0020: URI Scheme

[bitcoin-list]

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It was implemented in the waylaying client with the merge of Bitcoin-Qt for drag and drop, and just recently for system URI handling in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/70f55355e29c8e45b607e782c5d76609d23cc858. However the version on the wiki armed as BIP 20 has a ton of extraneous crap in it's number encoding which is not implemented in Bitcoin-Qt since it was explicitly voted against at the time the spec was being discussed. If that stuff were removed, I would agree that it is final.

Luke-Jr <luke@dashjr.org> wrote:

On Friday, January 27, 2012 5:51:04 PM Amir Taaki wrote:
> BIP 0020 is the old URI scheme BIPisized.
> 
> ATM it is Draft status.

It's been Final (even according to BIP 1 standards) since late January 2011. 
The only change recently is assigning it a BIP number for formality.

> I do not know enough about the discussion back last year to know whether to
> move it to Accepted status or not. My feelings are that having a
> re-decision (even if it was accepted last year) is healthy since it makes
> no sense to have a standard before a standardisation process existed.

Once P2SH is deployed, it will probably make good sense to revisit the URI 
Scheme for revision, and eventually move BIP 20 to Replaced/Superceded status.

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Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP 0020: URI Scheme

[Luke-Jr]

On Friday, January 27, 2012 7:36:31 PM bitcoin-list@bluematt.me wrote:
> It was implemented in the waylaying client with the merge of Bitcoin-Qt for
> drag and drop, and just recently for system URI handling in
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/70f55355e29c8e45b607e782c5d76609
> d23cc858.

It's been implemented in many clients for nearly all 2011.
Bitcoin-Qt is just behind the pace. Not relevant.

> However the version on the wiki armed as BIP 20 has a ton of extraneous crap
> in it's number encoding which is not implemented in Bitcoin-Qt since it was
> explicitly voted against at the time the spec was being discussed.

You mean 3 months *after* the spec had a consensus and multiple 
implementations.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP 0020: URI Scheme

[bitcoin-list]

Luke-Jr <luke@dashjr.org> wrote:

>On Friday, January 27, 2012 7:36:31 PM bitcoin-list@bluematt.me wrote:
>> It was implemented in the waylaying client with the merge of
>Bitcoin-Qt for
>> drag and drop, and just recently for system URI handling in
>>
>https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/70f55355e29c8e45b607e782c5d76609
>> d23cc858.
>
>It's been implemented in many clients for nearly all 2011.
>Bitcoin-Qt is just behind the pace. Not relevant.
>
>> However the version on the wiki armed as BIP 20 has a ton of
>extraneous crap
>> in it's number encoding which is not implemented in Bitcoin-Qt since
>it was
>> explicitly voted against at the time the spec was being discussed.
>
>You mean 3 months *after* the spec had a consensus and multiple 
>implementations.
I'm really not gonna reopen this debate.  You made a poll that was worded in the most biased way I could think of and still lost.  The multiple implementations were written but you and I know of no sites that actually had links to your version.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP 0020: URI Scheme

[Wladimir]

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I'd state it this way: a spec needs to be minimally complete

The subset implemented by bitcoin-qt allows description of *all* currently
desirable bitcoin transactions.

The rest of the spec is simply other ways to describe the same = redundancy

In case new transaction types are added, the spec obviously needs to be
extended. But not with a zillion ways to write "send XXX coins to YYY".

Anyway, that's my last word about it.

Wladimir

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:12 AM, <bitcoin-list@bluematt.me> wrote:

>
>
> Luke-Jr <luke@dashjr.org> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, January 27, 2012 7:36:31 PM bitcoin-list@bluematt.me wrote:
> >> It was implemented in the waylaying client with the merge of
> >Bitcoin-Qt for
> >> drag and drop, and just recently for system URI handling in
> >>
> >
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/70f55355e29c8e45b607e782c5d76609
> >> d23cc858.
> >
> >It's been implemented in many clients for nearly all 2011.
> >Bitcoin-Qt is just behind the pace. Not relevant.
> >
> >> However the version on the wiki armed as BIP 20 has a ton of
> >extraneous crap
> >> in it's number encoding which is not implemented in Bitcoin-Qt since
> >it was
> >> explicitly voted against at the time the spec was being discussed.
> >
> >You mean 3 months *after* the spec had a consensus and multiple
> >implementations.
> I'm really not gonna reopen this debate.  You made a poll that was worded
> in the most biased way I could think of and still lost.  The multiple
> implementations were written but you and I know of no sites that actually
> had links to your version.
>
>
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP 0020: URI Scheme

[Andreas Schildbach]

On 01/28/2012 02:45 AM, Luke-Jr wrote:

> It's been implemented in many clients for nearly all 2011.
> Bitcoin-Qt is just behind the pace. Not relevant.

Bitcoin Wallet for Android implements only parts of this spec:

The hexadecimal notations (x) and exponent notations (X) feel horribly
redundant to me and are thus not implemented.

"label" and "message" parameters are not implemented right now, but will
probably be in a later version.

"send" is also not implemented.

Cheers,

Andreas