From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WN5sw-00030l-SC for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 19:29:14 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.3 as permitted sender) client-ip=80.91.229.3; envelope-from=gcbd-bitcoin-development@m.gmane.org; helo=plane.gmane.org; Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1WN5su-0000qw-PK for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 19:29:14 +0000 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WN5sn-0004iX-Pw for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 20:29:05 +0100 Received: from e178184252.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.184.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 20:29:05 +0100 Received: from andreas by e178184252.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 20:29:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net From: Andreas Schildbach Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 20:28:53 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20140308085242.GA5727@odo.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: e178184252.adsl.alicedsl.de User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.91.229.3 listed in list.dnswl.org] -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 1.1 DKIM_ADSP_ALL No valid author signature, domain signs all mail -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Headers-End: 1WN5su-0000qw-PK Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Instant / contactless payments X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 19:29:15 -0000 On 03/10/2014 04:09 PM, Alex Kotenko wrote: > ​Yes, ​I'm certain about that we need to switch to BIP70 asap. As I said > earlier - support among the wallets is the biggest problem here really. > Only Andreas' Wallet supports it right now AFAIK, and even in there it's > only as "LABS feature", so will be turned off for most of users. Just a small clarification here. Bitcoin Wallet supports the customer side of the protocol since 2011, without any "Labs enabling"! This means you've got an install base of half a million devices that you can interoperate with. Sure, a lot of users will have Bluetooth switched off. The UI flow to enable it while paying is pretty smooth though. The merchant side used to have the Labs enabling but this is gone since a few weeks.