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From: Andreas Schildbach <andreas@schildbach.de>
To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] moving the default display to mbtc
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:05:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lfv2an$iv3$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <lfscfd$3cs$1@ger.gmane.org>

btw. None of Bitcoin Wallet's users complained about confusion because
of the mBTC switch. In contrast, I get many mails and questions if
exchange rates happen to differ by >10%.

I suspect nobody looks at the Bitcoin price. It's the amount in local
currency that matters to the users.


On 03/13/2014 02:40 PM, Andreas Schildbach wrote:
> Indeed. And users were crying for mBTC. Nobody was asking for µBTC.
> 
> I must admit I was not aware if this thread. I just watched other
> wallets and at some point decided its time to switch to mBTC.
> 
> 
> On 03/13/2014 02:31 PM, Mike Hearn wrote:
>> The standard has become mBTC and that's what was adopted. It's too late
>> to try and sway this on a mailing list thread now.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Gary Rowe <g.rowe@froot.co.uk
>> <mailto:g.rowe@froot.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>     The MultiBit HD view is that this is a locale-sensitive presentation
>>     issue. As a result we offer a simple configuration panel giving
>>     pretty much every possible combination: icon, m+icon,  μ+icon, BTC,
>>     mBTC,  μBTC, XBT, mXBT,  μXBT, sat along with settings for
>>     leading/trailing symbol, commas, spaces and points. This allows
>>     anyone to customise to meet their own needs beyond the offered default. 
>>
>>     We apply the NIST guidelines for representation of SI unit symbols
>>     (i.e no conversion to native language, no RTL giving icon+m etc).
>>
>>     Right now MultiBit HD is configured to use m+icon taken from the
>>     Font Awesome icon set. However reading earlier posts it seems
>>     that μ+icon is more sensible. 
>>
>>     Let us know what you'd like.
>>
>>     Links:
>>     m+icon screenshot: http://imgur.com/a/WCDoG
>>     Font Awesome icon: http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/btc/
>>     NIST SI guidelines: http://physics.nist.gov/Pubs/SP811/sec07.html
>>
>>
>>     On 13 March 2014 12:56, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com
>>     <mailto:jgarzik@bitpay.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Resurrecting this topic.  Bitcoin Wallet moved to mBTC several weeks
>>         ago, which was disappointing -- it sounded like the consensus was
>>         uBTC, and moving to uBTC later --which will happen-- may result in
>>         additional user confusion, thanks to yet another decimal place
>>         transition.
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Wendell <w@grabhive.com
>>         <mailto:w@grabhive.com>> wrote:
>>         > We're with uBTC too. Been waiting for the signal to do this,
>>         let's do it right after the fee system is improved.
>>         >
>>         > -wendell
>>         >
>>         > grabhive.com <http://grabhive.com> | twitter.com/hivewallet
>>         <http://twitter.com/hivewallet> | gpg: 6C0C9411
>>         >
>>         > On Nov 15, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>         >
>>         >> Go straight to uBTC. Humans and existing computer systems
>>         handle numbers to
>>         >> the left of the decimals just fine (HK Dollars, Yen). The
>>         opposite is
>>         >> untrue (QuickBooks really does not like 3+ decimal places).
>>         >
>>
>>
>>
>>         --
>>         Jeff Garzik
>>         Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist
>>         BitPay, Inc.      https://bitpay.com/
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-14 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-14 11:45 [Bitcoin-development] moving the default display to mbtc Melvin Carvalho
2013-11-14 18:18 ` Luke-Jr
2013-11-17  3:22   ` Jacob Lyles
2013-11-14 20:01 ` Alan Reiner
2013-11-14 21:15   ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-11-14 21:55     ` Allen Piscitello
2013-11-14 22:00       ` Alan Reiner
2013-11-14 22:07         ` Allen Piscitello
2013-11-14 23:01           ` Luke-Jr
2013-11-14 23:11             ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-11-14 23:13               ` Luke-Jr
2013-11-14 23:22               ` Jeff Garzik
2013-11-15  0:15               ` Luke-Jr
2013-11-15  0:18                 ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-11-16  0:41             ` Drak
2013-11-16  0:48               ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-11-16  1:10               ` Luke-Jr
2013-11-16  1:19                 ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2013-11-16  1:19                 ` Drak
2013-11-16  1:31                   ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-11-15  8:55           ` Eugen Leitl
2013-11-14 22:21         ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-11-14 22:32         ` Drak
2013-11-14 22:37           ` Drak
2014-05-02 19:17       ` Jeff Garzik
2014-05-03  0:54         ` Ben Davenport
2014-05-03  1:13           ` Alan Reiner
2014-05-03  1:50             ` Aaron Voisine
2014-05-03  2:10             ` Matias Alejo Garcia
2014-05-03  2:38           ` Luke Dashjr
2014-05-03  2:41             ` Ben Davenport
2014-05-03  2:43             ` Peter Todd
2014-05-03  3:35             ` Un Ix
2014-05-03 12:32             ` Roy Badami
2014-05-03  4:23         ` Tamas Blummer
2013-11-14 22:03     ` Jeff Garzik
2013-11-14 22:31       ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-11-14 22:53         ` Alan Reiner
2013-11-14 23:01           ` Jeff Garzik
2013-11-14 23:10           ` Luke-Jr
2013-11-15  9:23           ` Eugen Leitl
2013-11-15  9:37             ` Alex Kravets
2013-11-15  9:59               ` Adam Back
2013-11-15 10:39               ` Eugen Leitl
2013-11-15  7:18       ` Wladimir
2013-11-18  2:28       ` Wendell
2014-03-13 12:56         ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-13 13:29           ` Gary Rowe
2014-03-13 13:31             ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-13 13:40               ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-14 14:05                 ` Andreas Schildbach [this message]
2014-03-14 14:14                   ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-14 14:49                     ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-14 14:57                       ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-14 15:02                         ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-14 15:12                           ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-14 15:30                             ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-14 15:32                           ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-14 15:56                             ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-14 16:01                       ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-03-14 16:15                         ` Alex Morcos
2014-03-14 16:51                           ` Ricardo Filipe
2014-03-14 16:58                             ` Allen Piscitello
2014-03-14 15:10                     ` Tyler
2014-03-14 14:18                   ` Roy Badami
2014-03-13 19:38               ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-13 13:34           ` Wladimir
2014-03-13 13:45             ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-13 13:53               ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-13 14:32                 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-13 15:50                   ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-13 16:17                     ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-03-13 16:39                     ` Melvin Carvalho
2014-03-13 16:55                       ` Allen Piscitello
2014-03-13 17:13                         ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-13 17:23                           ` Allen Piscitello
2014-03-13 16:14                   ` Alan Reiner
2014-03-13 16:23                     ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-13 16:29                     ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-13 17:18                       ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-03-13 17:21                         ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-13 17:24                         ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-13 17:36                           ` Alan Reiner
2014-03-13 17:43                             ` Wladimir
2014-03-13 17:51                             ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-13 17:58                               ` Alan Reiner
2014-03-13 19:26                       ` Drak
2014-03-13 16:08               ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-03-13 16:30                 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-13 16:37                   ` slush
2014-03-13 17:48                     ` Luke-Jr
2014-03-13 18:23                 ` Jorge Timón
2014-03-13 18:29                   ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-13 18:51                     ` Ben Davenport
2014-03-14  0:34                     ` Jorge Timón
2014-03-14 17:14                       ` vv01f
2014-03-14 20:13                         ` Natanael
2014-03-14  1:26                 ` Un Ix
2014-03-14 21:56           ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla
2013-11-15 10:45   ` Wladimir
2013-11-15 10:57     ` Eugen Leitl
2013-11-14 22:27 ` Drak
2013-11-15  0:05   ` Jeff Garzik
2013-11-15  0:37     ` Daniel F
2013-11-15  0:46       ` Melvin Carvalho
2013-11-15  0:57       ` Alan Reiner
2014-05-02 14:29 ` Melvin Carvalho
2013-11-15  5:21 Tamas Blummer
     [not found] <mailman.271337.1390426426.2210.bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
2014-03-13 15:17 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-13 15:37   ` Chris Pacia
2014-03-14 16:25 Andrew Smith
     [not found] <536537E2.1060200@stud.uni-saarland.de>
2014-05-03 18:46 ` Jannis Froese

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