From: Andreas Schildbach <andreas@schildbach.de>
To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Payment Protocol for Face-to-face Payments
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 09:09:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <lge7nk$3mf$2@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJHLa0N4J_Z907+D0ENSNKfNAW2N=7Jf4JzSCO=SU558GtGTzA@mail.gmail.com>
Afaik, BIP73 needs an external server (the web server).
On 03/20/2014 04:31 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Take a look at BIP 73:
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0073.mediawiki
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Alex Kotenko <alexykot@gmail.com
> <mailto:alexykot@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Andreas
>
>
> I'm implementing support for BIP70 in my POS at the moment, and I've
> just realized that with options you're proposing usecase I'm looking
> for is not covered.
>
> Right now, before BIP70, I'm sending BIP21 URI via NFC or QR code,
> and I need to still be able to use it for backwards compatibility.
> But at the same time I want to be able to support BIP70. And also I
> want to avoid using external servers, the concept of my POS is that
> everything is happening between just payer's phone and payee's POS
> device. This means that BIP72 HTTP(S) link inside Bitcoin URI is not
> suitable for me.
>
> You're also offering an option to include Base43 encoded PR body
> right inside the Bitcoin URI, but in a way that is not backwards
> compatible with BIP21.
>
> In the end this all means that there is no way for me to at the same
> time keep backwards compatibility with all wallets not supporting
> NFC and BIP70 (all other wallets right now), and keep things inside
> POS without need for external servers.
>
> I understand your intention behind base43 encoding and noncompatible
> URI - you want to make most possible use of QR codes. But I wonder -
> did you compare this base43 to base64 encoded request in a binary QR
> code format? How much do we actually win in total bytes capacity at
> a price of noncompatibility and increased complexity?
>
> And also maybe we can extend BIP72 to include encoded payment
> request in the URL directly in a backwards compatible way?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Alex Kotenko
>
>
> 2014-03-02 11:50 GMT+00:00 Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net
> <mailto:mike@plan99.net>>:
>
> Thanks Andreas.
>
> For BIP standardisation, I think the VIEW intent seems like an
> obvious one. Bluetooth support probably should come later
> if/when we put encryption/auth on the RFCOMM link (probably SSL).
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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-27 11:59 [Bitcoin-development] Payment Protocol for Face-to-face Payments Andreas Schildbach
2014-01-27 13:11 ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-27 18:18 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-01-27 18:34 ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-27 20:53 ` [Bitcoin-development] Experiment with linking payment requests via href Andreas Schildbach
2014-01-27 21:47 ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-27 17:11 ` [Bitcoin-development] Payment Protocol for Face-to-face Payments Jeremy Spilman
2014-01-27 17:39 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-01-27 18:18 ` Jeremy Spilman
2014-01-27 20:34 ` Roy Badami
2014-01-29 14:57 ` Christophe Biocca
2014-01-30 10:46 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-01-30 10:50 ` Mike Hearn
2014-02-07 23:15 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-02 9:47 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-02 11:50 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-20 2:22 ` Alex Kotenko
2014-03-20 3:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-20 8:09 ` Andreas Schildbach [this message]
2014-03-20 10:36 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-20 12:12 ` Adam Back
2014-03-20 12:20 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-20 17:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-20 17:42 ` Alex Kotenko
2014-03-20 18:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-21 10:28 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-21 13:59 ` Alex Kotenko
2014-03-22 16:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-22 16:45 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-22 16:55 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-03-22 17:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-22 17:30 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-23 3:47 ` Alex Kotenko
2014-03-21 10:25 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-21 10:59 ` Adam Back
2014-03-21 11:08 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-21 11:33 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-21 12:25 ` Adam Back
2014-03-21 13:07 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-20 18:20 ` Alex Kotenko
2014-03-20 18:31 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-20 18:50 ` Alex Kotenko
2014-03-20 21:52 ` Roy Badami
2014-03-20 23:02 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-26 22:48 ` Roy Badami
2014-03-26 22:56 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-26 23:20 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-27 10:08 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-27 13:31 ` vv01f
2014-06-30 19:26 ` Alex Kotenko
2014-07-01 8:18 ` Mike Hearn
2014-07-01 9:48 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-07-01 10:42 ` Michael Wozniak
2014-07-01 13:03 ` Alex Kotenko
2014-07-01 14:59 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-07-01 15:07 ` Michael Wozniak
2014-07-01 15:39 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-07-01 17:18 ` Alex Kotenko
2014-07-01 17:59 ` Mike Hearn
2014-07-02 8:49 ` Alex Kotenko
2014-03-21 10:43 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-20 8:08 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-20 16:14 ` Alex Kotenko
2014-03-21 9:47 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-21 13:54 ` Alex Kotenko
2014-03-21 14:51 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-21 15:38 ` Alex Kotenko
2014-03-21 15:20 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-21 15:24 ` Mike Hearn
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