From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOv6-0004Ki-MU for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 30 May 2014 15:40:36 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.3 as permitted sender) client-ip=80.91.229.3; envelope-from=gcbd-bitcoin-development@m.gmane.org; helo=plane.gmane.org; Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1WqOv4-0005Z3-Nh for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 30 May 2014 15:40:36 +0000 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOuv-0006sj-M4 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 30 May 2014 17:40:25 +0200 Received: from f052021231.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.52.21.231]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2014 17:40:25 +0200 Received: from andreas by f052021231.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2014 17:40:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net From: Andreas Schildbach Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 17:40:06 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20140523221726.GA30143@petertodd.org> <20140526163753.GA18693@petertodd.org> <48331d04b68b3d6554b4e59e97ffbafe@webmail.mckay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: f052021231.adsl.alicedsl.de User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.91.229.3 listed in list.dnswl.org] -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 1.1 DKIM_ADSP_ALL No valid author signature, domain signs all mail -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.7 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Headers-End: 1WqOv4-0005Z3-Nh Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] testnet-seed.bitcoin.petertodd.org is up again X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 15:40:36 -0000 I maybe have made this suggestion in the past, but why don't we teach the seeder (or maybe even plain bitcoind) how to write a zone file and then use matured DNS servers to serve this zone? I admit I never ran my own DNS so I'm not sure if that can work -- but to me it sounds like the easiest approach plus everyone can just use stock server software. On 05/30/2014 05:24 PM, Pieter Wuille wrote: > I don't think it would be too hard to add support for a option to the > seeder "for non-matching requests, forward to other DNS server at > IP:PORT", so you could cascade them. > > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Robert McKay wrote: >> No, I don't think so. The problem is the 'aa' flag is missing (see the >> 'flags' section in dig). Perhaps if you could suppress the authority >> records the recursor would give up and just accept the non-authorative >> answer, but that isn't a good solution even if it might work for some >> resolvers. >> >> Rob >> >> On Fri, 30 May 2014 15:13:36 +0100, Alex Kotenko wrote: >>> Hmm, you might be right, as queries >>> dig @node.alexykot.me [8] testnet-seed.alexykot.me [9] >>> >>> and >>> dig @node.alexykot.me [10] -p 18353 testnet-seed.alexykot.me >>> [11] >>> >>> are giving different authority sections. >>> >>> Hmm, but if I setup custom SOA record for it - it should work, >>> right? >>> What SOA name should it be actually, assuming that NS record for >>> testnet-seed.alexykot.me [12] is pointing at alexykot.me [13]? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Alex Kotenko >>> >>> 2014-05-30 14:41 GMT+01:00 Robert McKay : >>> >>>> Hi Alex, >>>> >>>> I think the problem is with my suggestion to use bind forwarding.. >>>> basically bind is stripping off the authorative answer bit in the >>>> reply.. this causes the recursor to go into a loop chasing the >>>> authority server which again returns a non-authoritve answer with >>>> itself as the authority again. Im not sure if this can be fixed >>>> without hacking the bind src, so maybe it wasnt such a great >>>> suggestion in the first place. Basically I think if bind was >>>> returning authorative answers it would work, but I cant see any way >>>> to make that happen in the bind configuration. >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> On Fri, 30 May 2014 14:19:05 +0100, Alex Kotenko wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Peter >>>>> >>>>> Ive setup DNS seeds myself a week ago, at >>>>> testnet-seed.alexykot.me [1] [6] >>>>> and bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me [2] [7], but there is a problem with >>>>> DNS >>>>> settings that we with Andreas couldnt sort out quickly. >>>>> >>>>> The problem itself is that I can reach my nameserver and get >>>>> dnsseed >>>>> response if I query it directly with >>>>> dig @node.alexykot.me [3] [8] testnet-seed.alexykot.me [4] [9] >>>>> >>>>> dig @node.alexykot.me [5] [10] bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me [6] >>>>> [11] >>>>> >>>>> But when I try nslookup testnet-seed.alexykot.me [7] [12] - >>>>> it >>>>> fails. >>>>> I guess the problem is in my DNS settings but I cant figure out >>>>> what >>>>> is it. >>>>> >>>>> S o could you share >>>>> how you configured DNS >>>>> for your seed >>>>> to help me debug >>>>> mine >>>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Alex Kotenko >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] http://testnet-seed.alexykot.me >>> [2] http://bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me >>> [3] http://node.alexykot.me >>> [4] http://testnet-seed.alexykot.me >>> [5] http://node.alexykot.me >>> [6] http://bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me >>> [7] http://testnet-seed.alexykot.me >>> [8] http://node.alexykot.me/ >>> [9] http://testnet-seed.alexykot.me/ >>> [10] http://node.alexykot.me/ >>> [11] http://testnet-seed.alexykot.me/ >>> [12] http://testnet-seed.alexykot.me >>> [13] http://alexykot.me >>> [14] mailto:robert@mckay.com >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Time is money. 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