From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Return-Path: <gcbd-bitcoin-development-2@m.gmane.org>
Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org
	[172.17.192.35])
	by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 455EE92
	for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
	Thu, 23 Jun 2016 11:50:53 +0000 (UTC)
X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6
Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3])
	by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61E99166
	for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
	Thu, 23 Jun 2016 11:50:51 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69)
	(envelope-from <gcbd-bitcoin-development-2@m.gmane.org>)
	id 1bG39h-0003tA-8X for bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org;
	Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:50:45 +0200
Received: from x4e37d0c8.dyn.telefonica.de ([78.55.208.200])
	by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian))
	id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
	Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:50:45 +0200
Received: from andreas by x4e37d0c8.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1
	(Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00
	for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
	Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:50:45 +0200
X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/
To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
From: Andreas Schildbach <andreas@schildbach.de>
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:50:16 +0200
Message-ID: <nkgidp$427$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <CAJowKg+zYtUnHv+ea--srehVa5K46sjpWbHVcVGRY5x0w5XRTQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<576A44F1.9050108@electrum.org>
	<CAJowKgLTtPKCV_6YWdTU2DiF0CAAiouggfGYVA+cax0Fyzc9Mg@mail.gmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org
X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x4e37d0c8.dyn.telefonica.de
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101
	Thunderbird/38.8.0
In-Reply-To: <CAJowKgLTtPKCV_6YWdTU2DiF0CAAiouggfGYVA+cax0Fyzc9Mg@mail.gmail.com>
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL,
	RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on
	smtp1.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Even more proposed BIP extensions to BIP 0070
X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>,
	<mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/>
List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>,
	<mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 11:50:53 -0000

On 06/22/2016 04:25 PM, Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> 
>     Only large merchants are able to maintain such an infrastructure; (even
>     Coinbase recently failed at it, they forgot to update their
>     certificate). For end users that is completely unpractical.
> 
> 
> Payment protocol is for when you buy stuff from purse.io
> <http://purse.io>, not really needed for face-to face transfers, end
> users, IMO.

What Andy said, plus there is an (unencrypted) version of BIP70 via
Bluetooth already in place. And its used in several thousand
face-to-face trades per day.