From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1V2si5-0005I0-6X for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 00:50:13 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.3 as permitted sender) client-ip=80.91.229.3; envelope-from=gcbd-bitcoin-development@m.gmane.org; helo=plane.gmane.org; Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1V2si1-0007EW-Va for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 00:50:13 +0000 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V2shv-00066O-Ct for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 02:50:03 +0200 Received: from linuxpal.mit.edu ([18.62.1.14]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 02:50:03 +0200 Received: from gdt by linuxpal.mit.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 02:50:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net From: Greg Troxel Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:45:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20130724023526.GD1009@zooko.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: linuxpal.mit.edu OpenPGP: id=098ED60E User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UIAUzFpAmWWjE2TnXypp2jhxgjI= X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.91.229.3 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -1.5 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Headers-End: 1V2si1-0007EW-Va Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Linux packaging letter X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 00:50:13 -0000 Mike Hearn writes: > If packagers hear upstreams cry about packaging a lot, I think you should > keep an open mind that some of them probably know what they're talking > about. We really shouldn't have to beg and cajole here. Saying "we have our > reasons and we want you to stop" should be enough. Asserting without explaining isn't going to work; lots of people think their code is more special than it is, and most of these claims are unwarranted. But, there is a good explanation for the bitcoin case.