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From: "Slurms MacKenzie" <slurms@gmx.us>
To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Making Electrum more anonymous
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 05:42:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-61061d18-d667-4dd3-b87e-01880612c446-1437709327718@3capp-mailcom-bs10> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B1A254.6070806@voskuil.org>

Keep in mind this is the similar premise as claimed to be offered by BIP37 bloom filters, but faulty assumptions and implementation failure in BitcoinJ have meant that bloom filters uniquely identify the wallet and offer no privacy for the user no matter what the settings are. If you imagine a system where there is somehow complete separation and anonymization between all requests and subscriptions, the timing still leaks the association between the addresses to the listeners. The obvious solution to that is to use a very high latency mix network, but I somehow doubt that there's any desire for a wallet with SPV security that takes a week to return results. 


> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 at 4:26 AM
> From: "Eric Voskuil via bitcoin-dev" <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> To: "Stefan Richter" <richter@cs.rwth-aachen.de>, gb <kiwigb@yahoo.com>, "Thomas Voegtlin" <thomasv@electrum.org>
> Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Making Electrum more anonymous
>
> 
> From our perspective, another important objective of query privacy is
> allowing the caller make the trade-off between the relative levels of
> privacy and performance - from absolute to non-existent. In some cases
> privacy is neither required nor desired.
> 
> Prefix filtering accomplishes the client-tuning objective. It also does
> not suffer server collusion attacks nor is it dependent on computational
> bounds. The primary trade-off becomes result set (download) size against
> privacy.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-24  3:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-22 15:51 [bitcoin-dev] Making Electrum more anonymous Thomas Voegtlin
2015-07-22 16:04 ` Natanael
2015-07-22 16:30 ` Eric Voskuil
2015-07-22 22:20   ` Eric Voskuil
2015-07-22 23:07     ` Joseph Gleason ⑈
2015-07-22 16:41 ` Joseph Gleason ⑈
2015-07-22 21:18   ` Mike Hearn
2015-07-22 23:11 ` gb
2015-07-23  0:07   ` Eric Voskuil
     [not found]   ` <114b2a76-ebc7-461a-b4bc-10873574d6c4@HUB2.rwth-ad.de>
2015-07-23 12:23     ` Stefan Richter
2015-07-24  2:26       ` Eric Voskuil
2015-07-24  3:42         ` Slurms MacKenzie [this message]
2015-07-24  4:44           ` Eric Voskuil
2015-07-24  9:38             ` Slurms MacKenzie
2015-07-24 11:12 ` s7r
2015-07-24 21:20   ` Slurms MacKenzie

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